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Old 29 August 2008, 01:03   #11
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A very blatant promotion this month. And some not so well considered arguments too.
So what name does he post on here under
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Old 29 August 2008, 04:57   #12
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Look out - attacking Scorpions seems to be taken rather personally by some people - like Skoda and Lada owners of old............
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Old 29 August 2008, 06:57   #13
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You can knock him
but i don't know of any body else that as singlehandedly built a brand like Scorpion in the rib market. As for the web site, i had a look at osprey.com web site not much to shout about there, having meet the man many times you could say he was a bit over the top some times, but how many world records do they hold how many scorpions completed round Britain race. i am not sticking up for him,just asking that you don't do the normal British thing of knocking people who are successful, because some times it just sounds like jealousy.
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Old 29 August 2008, 07:54   #14
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i don't know of any body else that as singlehandedly built a brand like Scorpion in the rib market.
depenlds what you actually mean by that - but I would have thought Tom McLaughin would be up there as a company with one man at the top building highly bespoke, quality ribs where people pay a premium for the brand. I dare say there are probably others.

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odd way of going about it.

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just asking that you don't do the normal British thing of knocking people who are successful,
don't think anyone was slagging scorpion or Mr Jelly actually. Although he might want to think about being a bit more open minded. The question is really over the editorial independence of RI.
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That what i mean you are just too happy to jump on the case
how about something like, he can afford to be a bit of twat
as he as a track record of building good ribs, any way since when did anybody pass up the chance to promote their product when given the chance.
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That what i mean you are just too happy to jump on the case
no I pay good money for my copy of rib international - I expect reasonable, fair and unbiased editorial - not someone preaching that most ribs are badly designed for having wooden decks - unlike his.
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as he as a track record of building good ribs,
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any way since when did anybody pass up the chance to promote their product when given the chance.
I don't blame him, although the smarter choice would be to be a little less obvious! I do think its HMS' job to edit the column (or send it back for revision) if its got too much of a "slant" on it.
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From my experience, pretty much anyone who is a columnist is only doing it for self-promotion, apart from Robert Fisk of course!!!
I am going to assume that you haven't read my column or articles in Sports Boat and Rib, or anything else that I have written on here or Boatmad - I take my position as a manufacturer and a journalist seriously and whilst I make use of my commercial membership on here and my advertising on Boatmad to do a little self promotion when I feel it's appropriate, I have never criticised another manufacturer or their methods despite having seen plenty of examples that would warrant a good slagging off!

I am of course excluding from the above statement any response to a posting by Manos in the bad old days!
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Look out - attacking Scorpions seems to be taken rather personally by some people - like Skoda and Lada owners of old............

Back in the day when I was a starving student, the first car I ever bought was a 15 year old Plymouth Valiant Duster with a rusty frame. I drove it over all sorts of boulder strewn forestry roads for about 5 years before selling it to a Skoda dealer for something like $ 500. I felt it would benefit them to be able to offer something a little more upscale, but that dealership vanished within a year.

I guess they couldn't get a steady enough supply of 20 year old Dodges to supplement their sales volume.
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I dont think anyone has the 'right' to be a prat - I've never met him , never spoken to him so cant say if he is or isn't .

Yes he is clearly very good at designing & building very good boats , but as has been said the column does read very much like a scorpion ad.

Yes all boats are built differantly, all have design oddities , but the impression in what I think should be an independant mag is that it is very heavily biased towards 'bigging up ' scorpion & very subtly putting other boats down.

Other writer for the mag have commercial operations - as do some on here - & yes while no-one really minds a bit of self publicity for thier product / company done in a 'nice' way there is aline which is easy to cross - after which it gets a bit too much.

I still think no one has the right to be a prat !
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We live in a free society and therefore have the right to be a prat, even if it is a very dumb thing to do.
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