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Old 27 March 2009, 12:05   #31
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the more times you do it, the better system you'll have in place, as hightower says - people want to be helpfull but I had the majority of good smooth recoveries on my own, as you do things in a certain order at your own pace, I definitely think how far in the trailer is in is a factor, I recover at a private slipway in eastney and is still fairly steep - I used to use the car and do the last 10ft of the towbar with rope, no way was I chucking the subaru in the sea! my jeep was another matter but now am lucky enough to have use of an electric winch to pull it up the slipway and then on to the car on concrete- its all about the rollers as someone else mention for guiding the keel - sometimes I stop half way and nudge it over using a shoulder barge if theres a fast tide running through but generally speaking once the front is on the front roller the rest tends to follow if the trailers set up right - again how far in the trailer is in can cause or not caise the boat to float over or hit obstructing bunks etc and can be frustrating and bloody hard graft, the winching requires a bit of welly and good footing and posture and winching technique - I feel your pain at times so dont think its you - but no way should you get rid of your sr based on this hang in there

that V6 is a lump also
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Old 27 March 2009, 12:28   #32
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I don't suppose there is a dry stack available to you nearby so someone else does all the donkey work for you and you get all the fun?
No, the part of the coast I live around isn't really a place for launching boats. Most are moored. I live 5 min walk from the beach (put PR8 3LQ in to google earth/maps) but have to travel to the other side of Preston. Liverpool is too dear!
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Old 27 March 2009, 12:29   #33
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IMO its time to leave it on a mooring, first couple of weeks is a worry but once you are over that its usually fine, no theft or damage.(get insurance) You will also use it more.
No matter how small you go the issues are more or less the same, even a 3m sib takes effort to launch and recover.
After all, your only here once and you cannot take f**k all with you when go.
That's the way it's looking to go Tinker Just one more thing that has turned up I'm gonna try out first.
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Old 27 March 2009, 12:35   #34
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the more times you do it, the better system you'll have in place, as hightower says - people want to be helpfull but I had the majority of good smooth recoveries on my own, as you do things in a certain order at your own pace, I definitely think how far in the trailer is in is a factor, I recover at a private slipway in eastney and is still fairly steep - I used to use the car and do the last 10ft of the towbar with rope, no way was I chucking the subaru in the sea! my jeep was another matter but now am lucky enough to have use of an electric winch to pull it up the slipway and then on to the car on concrete- its all about the rollers as someone else mention for guiding the keel - sometimes I stop half way and nudge it over using a shoulder barge if theres a fast tide running through but generally speaking once the front is on the front roller the rest tends to follow if the trailers set up right - again how far in the trailer is in can cause or not caise the boat to float over or hit obstructing bunks etc and can be frustrating and bloody hard graft, the winching requires a bit of welly and good footing and posture and winching technique - I feel your pain at times so dont think its you - but no way should you get rid of your sr based on this hang in there

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Olly mate, after reading your post I rang the guy who owns the boat yard and slip. Had a chat and he's letting me use his tractor that has a winch on the back. So this Sunday, health and wealth still in tact I'm going to use tractor to launch and recover. No more hand balling the trailer and if it comes to it I can use the winch on the tractor. If all goes well, happy days
If not, I'm going to antifoul her and after reading Chewy's thread on mooring his SR4 I'm going to leave the flooding hull open. I don't know why I didn't think of where there's no light, there's no growth

I said it when I first joined this site seeking advice and will say it again now. This site is top notch! Cheers lads
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Old 28 March 2009, 05:39   #35
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If not, I'm going to antifoul her and after reading Chewy's thread on mooring his SR4 I'm going to leave the flooding hull open. I don't know why I didn't think of where there's no light, there's no growth

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Just not true,if were the case,flat botomed boats would only need antifouled round the water line. Your SR4 after a couple of months will have a flooding hull and a Zoo. Not my boat but i've actual experience of seeing this.

Blank of the hull put a small bilge pump in there (I've done this and it works)
and a good boat cover so you don't need to leave the pump on' on the mooring.one idea that's possible is before you leave it fill the hull via the bung at he back with a hose (Fresh Water) before you leave it. Then use the pump to empty when you use it - Zoo's don't like fresh water.

Ask any diver if things can only grow in light.
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You get light going under neath flat bottom boats though.

I think you'd get some growth but not alot.
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Just not true,if were the case,flat botomed boats would only need antifouled round the water line. Your SR4 after a couple of months will have a flooding hull and a Zoo. Not my boat but i've actual experience of seeing this.

Blank of the hull put a small bilge pump in there (I've done this and it works)
and a good boat cover so you don't need to leave the pump on' on the mooring.one idea that's possible is before you leave it fill the hull via the bung at he back with a hose (Fresh Water) before you leave it. Then use the pump to empty when you use it - Zoo's don't like fresh water.

Ask any diver if things can only grow in light.
Bugger off IBWET, you've well pished on my fire now
I've noticed on boats that are moored up against the wall that only the side that gets the sun has grow, the other side seems to just get that brown line. But from what you say it'll still get messed up. Cheers for the info mate
Will redo MikeCC's bilge pump if it comes to leaving it on a permanent mooring the same as what you've suggested.
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Bugger off IBWET, you've well pished on my fire now
I've noticed on boats that are moored up against the wall that only the side that gets the sun has grow, the other side seems to just get that brown line. But from what you say it'll still get messed up. Cheers for the info mate
Will redo MikeCC's bilge pump if it comes to leaving it on a permanent mooring the same as what you've suggested.
That's true for some of the stuff; actual seaweed has problems without sun, but mussels and barnacles don't, from my experience they are the real issue,the brown slime just pressure washes off, people antifoul mainly for these other sod's (It would be a lot less expensive to just pressure wash).

The cover was to stop you needing to leave the pump on for the duration of the mooring) flat batt's etc.

That's a good set up with the tractor, I think if you use the winch even once,you find the money for one on your trailer...
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That's true for some of the stuff; actual seaweed has problems without sun, but mussels and barnacles don't, from my experience they are the real issue,the brown slime just pressure washes off, people antifoul mainly for these other sod's (It would be a lot less expensive to just pressure wash).

The cover was to stop you needing to leave the pump on for the duration of the mooring) flat batt's etc.

That's a good set up with the tractor, I think if you use the winch even once,you find the money for one on your trailer...
I've spent cold days scrapping the bloody things off my brothers hull and even colder days laying on my back and jetwashing under the drop keel. I've seen how much of a grip they have and that's why I worried about inside the hull. God I hope tomorrow goes well
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John, I grew up in Ainsdale and spent many an hour riding a trials bike across the beach and sand hills in the days when you could before the tree huggers banned anything exciting . You can launch from the beach but not on your owner it would take a 4x4 and a couple of young lads. You would have to use the gullies available at half tide. Does the sea fishing club still launch with a tractor across the beach? might be worth a chat with them.

Which is the other slip you mentioned btw?

If you do keep her on the water then you need to do something with the flooding hull, even a flap to keep the light out. If weed and soft corals start growing in there you will never be able to clean them out and it will stink when you lift it out of the water. We used to pass a 4m Avon in Strangford which lived on a mooring. The owner lived on board and this was his tender. There was a forest growing inside his hull, yuk.

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