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08 October 2005, 13:50
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: Ditherer
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Going Abroad
From the BIBOA website:
Going Abroad
When going abroad an I.C.C .is required, together with ships papers, VHF licence, V.A.T.certificate, and boat insurance, (also a translation of the insurance for the country of entry). Any other boating qualifications are useful but not mandatory. These can be asked for on entering harbour, or on open waters by Customs, and a fine imposed if you can not produce them. If you intend to enter European inland waterways the skipper will require a Certificate International de conducteur de bateaux de plaisance. [C E V I Rules] code European des voies de la navigation interieure. The European inland waterways regulations. A copy of Collision at Sea Regulations should be carried.
What's an I.C.C.?
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08 October 2005, 13:56
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RIBnet admin team
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Andy,
The ICC (International Certificate of Competence) is a certificate which shows you have reached a certain standard of competence in boat handling. It is recognised in many countries and foreign authorities may require you to be a holder in order to navigate in their coastal waters. The most usual way to obtain it is to do a RYA Level 2 powerboat course. There is a box to tick on the form your instructor fills out at the end of the course which will enable you to be issued with the ICC (assuming you pass!). There is a fee to pay but this is waived if you are or become a member of the RYA (and membership of the RYA is cheaper than the fee!).
There is some more info on requirements for taking your boat abroad here.
HTH
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08 October 2005, 14:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
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Oh Gawd! Not another bl**dy RYA crash course. Sailing is plagued with them now.
At least France & the CIs don't require them (yet) and I very much doubt I will be going any further.
--Andy
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08 October 2005, 14:24
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RIBnet admin team
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Originally Posted by Andy Moore
At least France & the CIs don't require them (yet) and I very much doubt I will be going any further.
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Sorry to disappoint you but I think you'll find that, officially, France does require certain documentation to be carried, but maybe not the ICC (see the link in my previous post). Although, in practice, many people are never asked for it, we always have everything with us, just in case!
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08 October 2005, 14:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes, Isle of Wight
Boat name: Ditherer
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Originally Posted by Louise
Sorry to disappoint you but I think you'll find that, officially, France does require certain documentation to be carried, but maybe not the ICC (see the link in my previous post). Although, in practice, many people are never asked for it, we always have everything with us, just in case!
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When sailing, we take our insurance documents but nothing else except our passports. We have never been asked to show any documentation, but always observe the Customs regulations to the letter. This is especially important in the CIs as they fiercely guard their sovereignty.
I must say I am not a fan of all this 'competence testing'. Just get out there and do it, I say. Just my opininon etc....
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08 October 2005, 16:54
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Town: Brittany/Portsmouth
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We were papered to the hilt on our blast to Southern Brittany To St. Malo and Beyond - July 2005 but didn't get asked for a thing in over a month. Not even in the Channel Islands. Think the rule goes : the more you carry the less likely you are to get asked for something.
But then again we had Pete 007 with us
missus
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08 October 2005, 17:24
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Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
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I had to pull into Oostende the other week and the only free place for 10 minutes was the local water- police barge ( did'nt realize it) - and basically the only thing they were interested to see was the tax disc for the VHF- so if you have a VHF set- pay the tax and get a disc. This is for the boat and has nothing to do with you- however if you use it you will need at least a SRC
certificate.
Jonathan
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08 October 2005, 17:29
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Member
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At least France & the CIs don't require them (yet) and I very much doubt I will be going any further.
--Andy
I would not want to contradict you Andy - but I think the French will insist on you having an ICC.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Yes its a little money - but worth it
and will get you away from the missus for a couple of days. I like your mmsi
number... havnt see one like that before.!!!!!!!!!!
Jonathan
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08 October 2005, 17:30
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Member
Country: Belgium
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even Codders has got an ICC - well that's what he says??
Jonathan
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08 October 2005, 19:26
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Member
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Originally Posted by eupa
even Codders has got an ICC - well that's what he says??
Jonathan
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NOT from choice!!!
Also got my SRC - what amazed me was that over half the people on the course didn't have a boat and weren't even thinking of getting one!!!! Wonder why exactly they wanted the certificate - or maybe just another FREE course scheme????
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