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Old 19 October 2004, 06:45   #11
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I have seen the same problem with other makes of RIB also. The tubes are not sealed to the fireglass collar with 100% of their surface leaving paths for water to travel along.

I am not sure this sounds right, however in practice this is what happens on many makes of RIB. I have experienced the same problem with my Ribtec, and also seem in on Humber.
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I have seen the same problem with other makes of RIB also...I have experienced the same problem with my Ribtec, and also seem in on Humber...
Many manufacturers fail to mould a reabte into the underside if the tube attachment flange. I've seen this rebate on Scorpion and Bananashark, but it's sadly missing on many others.
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Many manufacturers fail to mould a reabte
Sorry for asking a silly question, but do you mean rebate? also how does it work? Does anyone have a photo?

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...do you mean rebate? also how does it work? Does anyone have a photo?
Yes, rebate here's a couple of pictures:
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Afternoon all, thanks for all the advice.

Unfortunately Laurence at Barnet Marine is away for a few days - I got an email back from another guy saying basically they can supply the glue etc or get someone local to fix it.

However, Iíve just been out to have a closer look. How hard should one have to pull to rip more off? It seems quite easy moving forward - less easy moving aft. Also it appears the fabric has stretched from the water pressure and isn't going to glue back flat.

The boats just over 2 years old and Iím seriously fed up with the number of problems its had right from day one - boat maintenance is bad enough as it is. Not sure I will be buying a Tornado again; their after sales support has been v.good so far but it would be nicer if it I didn't need it in the first place. The boats only been out 18 days this year!

Richard: That rebate looks very sensible..
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I'm no expert (someone will confirm or put me straight), but I've heard that the glue sticks the strip to the hull like sh*t sticks to a blanket, so you shouldn't be able to pull it off without having your y-fronts on the outside of your trousers, just like Superman (or super radio man).

I guess once it comes away at one point, water could potentially get in there and bugger it all up a bit more.

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So are Barnet saying get it repaired & send them the bill?
This would sound reasonable to me!
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So are Barnet saying get it repaired & send them the bill?
This would sound reasonable to me!
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If only - they said sorry to hear about your problems but its out of warranty so sort it yourself.

Sorry - didn't make that very clear
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Your hull looked to have a small rebate but maybe it's just the glue line. I noticed the extra length in the fabric, a bit strange that. You should need to pull really hard to get the strip to come away and you should feel that you may be risking tearing the PU surface away from the weave.
A rebate can be ground onto the flange and this will have the second advantage of preparing the fibreglass with no contamination, unless you put your greasy fingers all over it. It only needs to be very slightly more than the fabric thickness.

The pictures you posted appear to show the adhesive still on both surfaces. Therefore, it implies that the joining together has failed rather than the adhesive to the hull and fabric has failed. When the two glued surfaces are brought together there should be no moisture present, not even from your breath. Certainly don't do it on a damp day or with the boat parked over wet ground or grass.
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