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Old 07 January 2003, 11:58   #21
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That particular one is the MK9 and the Mk10 more or less looks the same. These helmets are light and allow good visibility.
I agree with Brian that a few points have not yet been answered
and we should wait and see what Gecko have to say or anyone who has had the experience of being ejected out of a rib in a helmet and has lived to tell the tale.

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Old 07 January 2003, 12:07   #22
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I cannot comment about GECKO helmet durability. I never used one. Probably they are as good as you say that they are.
However, I believe that any other helmet that is constructed for racing MX bikes or snowmobiles or street bikes is constructed under and has to conform with very many stricked rules and regs.
These helmets are very (I mean VERY) light and possibly have the same (if not even better qualities) as the GECKO helmets.......
Also they are not only made in red colour and they are pleasing to the eye too (joking)
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I discussed VOX in depth with DS Solutions, they do not use them for helmet install's (from what i remember) - opting for vacum operated foot switch or in-line 'squeeze' switches.

I think the wind noise on a RIB would be too great for it to work effectively.

(Could be wrong about this one though)

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PMR + Headset

I've used two types of PMR - Binatone 100 and Twintalker 3000 with headsets.

Mainly I've use them while skiing to make easy communication between group members whilst going down the slopes. Even in that reasonably quiet environment the VOX doesn't seem to be able to cope, so we just use the push to talk on the set.

I have used them on a RIB, but only once. They were a great benefit and as there were three other crew all with PMR and headset it was ideal if I wanted to say something to all.

The only thing to remember is anyone with a PMR with 2 miles can here you.

The headsets are simple in-ear with in-line mic and I haven't had any problems, I'm pretty sure they would fit within any helmet OK.

I will continue to use them as the benefit of being able to quickly and easily communicate with the whole crew on the water is increased by the fact you can continue to talk to the poor sod you send to collect the car and trailer, while your waiting for them to back it down the slipway (and give constructive criticism).

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I do not know where you got the idea that Gecko helmets are only made in RED . The RNLI have in white and you can have them in Green, Black, yellow Blue ect, ect , ect

By the way in case you ask "No, I do not work for Gecko"

Also as I understand the Gecko helmets are approved to maritime standards. How would a snow mobile type helmet look like after submersion in sea water. Is it waterproof?

The decision is a personal preference one, however if the RNLI use Gecko then that is good enough for me. They do not buy anything which they have not tested.

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If you weren't that bothered about a crew-crew comms system being wire free, then it would be possible to make a basic wire based comms unit with connection ports that could say be attached to the sides of jockey seats, which would all be connected together. Crew would just then plug their headset into the port for their seat, and use a PTT switch when they want to say something. Providing the connector would release easily enough if they were to go overboard it should be fine. Wouldn't be too good when standing away from the jockey seats, but I guess you'd be using them mostly in rougher conditions when you'd want to be on the seats anyway. If anyone's interested I might look into the design of something like this, would do my electronics some good to design something useful.

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It was only a joke about the colour. But I like Blue, gray and yellow.
And yes the snowmobil helemets are fully waterproof. Usually. if you make an order for a helmet it can be done as you like it.
In fact, in the US (I buy most of my gear from there and SAfrica as these places have good value for maney goods) you can specify how you actually want the helmet to be like, water proof, bulit proof, wind proof, what color or combibation of colours etc etc.
However, a RNLI or equivalent helmet does not necessarily mean that is a racing boat helemet.
The cost of a helmet in the US and SAfrica with intercom is MUCH LESS than GBP 450 (I think this is how GECKOs are forgive me if I'm wrong) and your helmet is custom made.
Anyway, is what anyone prefers. I think that in Europe and particularly in the UK quite a few items (not to say everything) are OVERPRICED, people buy them either because they do not bother to ask arround or they do not care how much they spend and most of the UK money grabing manufacturers, importers, producers etc DO NOT DESERVE ANY SUPPORT (see and compare prices of cars, moto bikes, RIBs, ropes and anchors (major price differencial), VHFs, GPSs and other goods to many to mention between the UK and other European countries not to mention the US and SAfrica).
I think when we go to Plymouth you should check out my helmet and see what you think. I will deffinately check out a GECKO if I get a chance.
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Thanks for the tip off. I just visited Ralph Chesters at Comunica Industries International Ltd. Tel 01962 840084. He has an excellent helmet and coms solution at an attractive price and its a fine product. The kit looks the business.

I will be placing an order and will keep the forum informed of my experiences.

Once again thanks to everybody for your advice on this subject.
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What you are refering to is also of the supply of DS Developments and this is one of the best on the market. The most popular for a commercial application is when the crew can talk to each other via the intercom and only the say, coxswain can speak to shore or mother vessel via VHF.

A much cheaper solution is to have a helmet say Gecko or any other one , single earpiece, waterproof boom mounted microphone , PTT control fitted on helmet and all inter connected to say a handheld Icom Euro V. This can be placed into waterproof case for extra protection and strapped arounds ones waist. This then becomes hands free set. Most ribsters have a handheld set so this is not going to cost anything like pounds 450.00. Anyway a call to Derek at DS Developments will provide an answer.

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The Gecko for sure is more for commercial or leisure use than say racing.

I have used the MK8 twice for racing during the two offshore Polish rib races and during the first one in 1999 my driver and I were ejected out of the rib at very low speed in the harbour. Most unusual you will no doubt say and I agree. Looking back today rather funny so If you want to read about this experience look up the Millenium issue of RI. To complete this story the weather was quite good so at the time we had our dry suits tied around our waists . You can only guess what happened next. Anyway we survived to tell the tale as HMS and Paul Lemmer came to the rescue.

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