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Old 09 June 2007, 16:16   #21
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Nice to see they were using the kill cord. With a better driver the RIB would have seriously run rings around the patrol boat - did you see how much tighter it turned???
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Old 09 June 2007, 21:40   #22
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I can see that the police had a job to do as they quite rightly could not be 100% sure if the RIB's where GENUINE Green Piece protestor's, i suppose they cannot take the risk these days (9/11 terroist's posed as ordinary passengers & killed 100's). In the State's i belive if they wish a boat to stop & it wont they shoot out the engine....simple & effective , i belive the German police carry gun's so where's the problem, it would also make protestors think twice next time, as whilst the police are wasting there time dealing with them a genuine terrorist could get through! But driving over a ZAPCAT with the crew still in it is just stupid & dangerous as is driving over a RIB that has stopped & is surrounded anyway . Im not saying in any way that i like or care about Blair or Bush as said earlier in this thread i think they both deserve all they get......
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Terrorists could also pose as Police.............
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Old 10 June 2007, 03:22   #24
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In the State's i belive if they wish a boat to stop & it wont they shoot out the engine....simple & effective , i belive the German police carry gun's so where's the problem
Shooting out the engine on a boat that is moving at 30 knots plus whilst standing on another boat that is moving at the same speed. I should imagine that is even more dangerous than trying to ram them.

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Old 10 June 2007, 03:39   #25
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Shooting out the engine on a boat that is moving at 30 knots plus whilst standing on another boat that is moving at the same speed. I should imagine that is even more dangerous than trying to ram them.

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royal marines have managed to do just that from helos 150 ft in the air against drug runners moving at 40+ knots in the west indies..sure codders had the pics a while ago..
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Quote;Shooting out the engine on a boat that is moving at 30 knots plus whilst standing on another boat that is moving at the same speed. I should imagine that is even more dangerous than trying to ram them.

If they where using that big police jet boat it would be a very stable gun platform to work from and as mentioned above the police marksmen are trained to do so....tell me what would you rather,

1/ Having a 35 ton ally jet boat drive over your RIB while your still in it, getting crushed to death & writting off your boat...

2/ Having your engine shot out by a pro, & having to buy a new one....

3/ Stay at home & send Mr Blair a letter outlineing what you dont like about G8, then go out on your RIB with the family & get a tan.....

Umm thats a hard one......

I know what i would have done..........
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Old 10 June 2007, 11:11   #27
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Nice to know that every one is so liberal minded about Greenpeace and environmental campaigners.

Mmmm, terrorists in RIB with a Greenpeace flag "attacking" a land based summit where all the worlds leaders decide to do jack-shit about the environment, Africa etc. Thats a new one!

As for the comment that you cant be an environmental campaigner if you use fossil fuels....well thats so damn ignorant that if that is the general consensus then we're all doomed.

Whatever you think of Seashepherd, Greenpeace, FOTE, they do a load of good protecting the environment that we as boaters enjoy everyday so give them a break!
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Old 10 June 2007, 11:15   #28
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Quote:"Wrong. The protesters put their lives and the lives of the police at risk by trying to illegally crash the summit. If those idiots had been killed (and if they were, ... oh well), it would have been completely their own fault and not that of the police."

Oh my God, we are all doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Never heard of shooting out engines from another boat. Probably impossible.
The US coastguard use helos. If a go fast drug runner is intercepted they fly along side and " stitch" a burst of 30cal. machine gun fire across their bow as a warning. If they do not stop then they mount a 50 cal rifle with a red dot sight ( not a machine gun) on a sling in the doorway of the helo and take out the engines. There is a movie clip of this happening somewhere on the web. You have to be sort a stupid not to stop after the warning burst.
Or you use one of these
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Nice to know that every one is so liberal minded about Greenpeace and environmental campaigners.

As for the comment that you cant be an environmental campaigner if you use fossil fuels....well thats so damn ignorant that if that is the general consensus then we're all doomed.

Whatever you think of Seashepherd, Greenpeace, FOTE, they do a load of good protecting the environment that we as boaters enjoy everyday so give them a break!
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I'm sorry but I completely disagree with you. I am all for compaigning to save the environment and actually work very hard to ensure that my company and home life is as 'green' as it possibly can be.

However, I believe you lead by example. You wouldn't pay any attention to an MP talking about saving the environment if they drive everywhere in a big fuel-guzzling car - what example are they setting. Don't do as I do, do as I say - I don't think so.

I'm not disagreeing with what they are trying to achieve - I just don't think that that was the way to achieve it.
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