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17 October 2004, 10:51
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
Boat name: Happy Hours
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: 300 Verado
MMSI: 235040122
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 476
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Full Bilge, Flat Battery
I have a problem with my boat and before I embark on a course of action would like some feedback from the forum.
My RIB is new to me but will spend 8 months of the year in the water in a marina. After all the heavy rain of recent days I popped down to check all was well and found one very flat battery and bilges full of water. The entire deck area appears to drain into the bilge and is then pumped clear, self bailers are installed although it appears they would only work having taken a wave over the bow and still enjoying forward movement.
I have a 'powerpack' used for jump starting cars and will go back to the boat tomorrow to fire up the engine, run at a high tickover, drain the bilge and try and get some charge into the battery. This is a good short term solution but will only work until it rains hard again and I leave the boat for 5 days.
The marina has shore power points at each bearth. Is it feasable to use this when I leave the boat? If so how?
Do I make a permanent connection on the boat or do I simple use the power to attach to a battery charger?
Advice and thoughts will be warmly welcomed.
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17 October 2004, 11:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Exeter
Boat name: TomBuoy
Make: Solent
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser 1.7dti
MMSI: 235 020 387
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,073
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Is there not a drain plug in the bottom of the bilges that you could leave open instead of using the pumps?
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17 October 2004, 11:42
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - Isle of Man
Town: Peel, IOM
Boat name: Saffron
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: I/B Diesel 315hp
Join Date: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,889
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Surely, your best bet long-term, would be to use a cover-all on your boat? That way they rain goes overboard naturally.
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17 October 2004, 13:31
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Member
Country: Belgium
Town: NIVELLES BELGIUM
Boat name: INDEPENDENT
Make: BWM RAPIER
Length: 9m +
Engine: Ob 2*250/2t yams hpd
MMSI: 235030702
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 887
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Originally Posted by simmons0
Is there not a drain plug in the bottom of the bilges that you could leave open instead of using the pumps?
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what happens when the boat is in the water- opening the drain plugs would be a fantastic idea???????????????????.
the easiest way is just to disconnect the power if the boat is left for some time. Presume you do have a float switch??
Anyway dont worry the boat wont sink even if full of water.
Jonathan
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17 October 2004, 17:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Length: 6m +
Join Date: May 2000
Posts: 308
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Qcamel
The Scorpions have a slightly unusual setup where the drain pugs in the deck drain into an underdeck well where the water collects before being pumped out (usually) by an automatic bilge pump – is this how yours is set up?
The only time that we’ve had a problem with our Scorpions was when the float switch stuck open on one – have you checked this? - as it would rapidly trash the battery.
Best bet as Brian says is one of the allover covers (Scorpion sell them), if they are secured properly that will solve the issue. I suppose you could install a shore power kit, but it will cost a bit due to the need for the transformer and wiring, alternatively a second dedicated battery might be a better bet. I’d be tempted to go for the cover that will have the added benefit of keeping the tubes looking like new
Paul
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17 October 2004, 17:50
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,760
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I is surprised the Scorp did not come with a second battery, that would certainly be my solution and a two way switch. The shore power arrangement seems cumbersome!
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17 October 2004, 18:31
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Cinque Ports Baron
Make: Tornado
Length: 6.5
Engine: Mercury 200 Opti
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 20
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I have two batteries on the boat. The second ( backup battery ) is used to power the bilge pump. I have put a solar charger onto this battery to keep it topped up too. So far no problems even with all the rain we've had.
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17 October 2004, 19:54
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,760
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Originally Posted by daviesd
The second ( backup battery ) is used to power the bilge pump. I have put a solar charger onto this battery to keep it topped up too.
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Mkes sense to me, how much was the charger
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17 October 2004, 20:30
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#9
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Member
Country: UK - N Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: No Rib Yet
Make: N/A
Length: no boat
Engine: N/A
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 5
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Maplins sell a solar trickle charger for £14.99. You can plug it into a cigar lighter socket or directly to the battery terminals. It comes with suction cups or you can screw mount it. I have one in my defender fixed to the underside of the sun visor. I flip it down when I park up for any length of time and it works fine even on overcast days. Yes we have those in Belfast occasionally.
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17 October 2004, 20:36
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#10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Exeter
Boat name: TomBuoy
Make: Solent
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercruiser 1.7dti
MMSI: 235 020 387
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,073
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Originally Posted by simmons0
Is there not a drain plug in the bottom of the bilges that you could leave open instead of using the pumps?
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Apologies, i got it into my head the boat was dry bearthed.??
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