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Old 18 January 2004, 14:16   #1
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From the RNLI Ireland magazine

Photo below is poor quality but 'interesting'. Looks like a Redbay.
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Old 18 January 2004, 15:55   #2
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Can you tell us this story please ?
It is very intersting.
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How many people are in that rib ? no wonder it sank.

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Old 19 January 2004, 04:38   #4
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Rather like the pontoon at Saxon Wharf!
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Old 19 January 2004, 09:08   #5
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Ireland.

Is it off Lambay Island on the East Coast ? Last year they rescued a group of divers in a sinking rib here. It looked like the crowd off a double decker bus and all their kit. I thought they were going for a world record on how many divers in a rib category.
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It would be very interesting to find out a bit more about this.
I count 12 on board?
Tubes look fine. Is the hull holed?
How did it happen? More. More More.
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Old 19 January 2004, 12:59   #7
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NO, It wasnt, Gavin and I were out that day and heard the lifeboat been dispached, We were 8 miles away and no much fuel at the time, so we couldnt assist.

The sea was quite choppy that day and 14 in total had gone diving in a 6.1m Redbay It swamped as they approched the dive site, as you would expect, with 14 divers and kit, and then the engine got wet! a Yacht pulled then off the cliff face of the island, and then the helicopter lifter a 14 year old boy who was cold and wet off the rib. The lifeboat did the rest....

Not the sharpest tool's in the shed, I think.

No one hurt and Iwould say a you boy with a great memory of been winched and flying in a SAR chopper.....
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Ok so its me doing a run with illegal aliens into Ireland. We took a little water.
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Old 20 January 2004, 15:02   #9
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Here is the news clip
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Does rather prove how inherently safe RIBS are
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Good link with a brief but salutory recounting of the story of the 14-man rib. I read on.....the report covers 5 callouts over Easter 2003. The Redbay was first, but there followed an even better story......

"At 1741 on the Saturday, the ALB launched to assist the yacht Thalia aground at the approaches to Malahide Estuary....transferred the three crew to the lifeboat...During the Sunday afternoon both the ALB and ILB launched in rough sea conditions with a strong easterly force 6-7 wind, the ILB transferring two crew members who were on board the yacht Thalia, still hard aground, to the ALB. They were attempting to recover the yacht from which they had been rescued by the lifeboat on the previous Saturday."

The report makes no further comment. One can only imagine what went through the minds of the lifeboat crew as they re-rescued those yachtsmen.

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Does rather prove how inherently safe RIBS are
or how incredibly stupid people can be!
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Old 21 January 2004, 08:37   #13
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Thats true.
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Easter weekend

I suppose its a traditional time of year to restart the seasons boating in Ireland what the links and article dont tell you is the youth lifted from the swamped Redbay had no lifejacket, hence the Irish Coastguard lifted him first, The Trent from Howth did the rest, also that weekend in the same Marina Thalia was trying to get into a woman slipped in off a pontoon in the dark and drowned, as for Thalia it was very unfortunate and recently enough I saw it in a boat yard with its badly damaged keel on the ground beside it, they were very unlucky, the approaches to Malahide involve crossing a sand bank, the Marina has excellent gps positions for the channel bouys which often get moved in heavy weather, the sand bar has caused numerous groundings its particularly dangerous at low water, only for keeled craft.As for the Redbay the weather can be murder off Lambay in an Easterly, the best of us can be caught out and swamped,
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Anybody now what the CE rating is for a Redbay 6.1 i.e peeps and or weight loading
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Thalia was trying to get into a woman
it was very unfortunate and recently enough I saw it in a boat
This sounds like some type of sexual thing
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Anybody now what the CE rating is for a Redbay 6.1 i.e peeps and or weight loading
Sorry dont but here is a pic............dry ride or what
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Although it is poss. a 6mtr RIB might be rated for 14 people with 14 people anddive kit abord it would be well over specified payload for sure.
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Can't find any specs on the redbay but similar size Tornados are rated to 1450Kg / 12 persons and even the Humber 6.3 rated at 1700kgs / 18 persons should only be used to carry 9 divers.

I personally think the skipper was highly irresponsible to load the boat so close to its maximum capacity and take it out in those conditions.

My 4.7m RIB is rated to carry a maximum of 8 people. This is fine around the Solent in calm conditions but I would be seriously pushing my luck to go out in anything other than calm with 8 people on board.
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Couldn't agree more with you DGL, my point is my Avon 4.7 was rated for 8 people who would have had to be standing up to get on the boat. and I had it coded for 3. I think the CE plates can encourage overloading from the less careful boat skippers
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