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Old 13 June 2009, 13:12   #11
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Trust your compass and dont be tempted to add a few degrees on for good measure .if its really foggy and you are near a cliff listen for the echo of your horn or whistle .off some towns the smell of local places is a good give away ,candy floss fish chips and sounds of people on the beach.even small of exposed seaweed on rocks if your good enough .
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Trust your compass and dont be tempted to add a few degrees on for good measure.
Can you really just generally say that without knowing which way the error is acting .

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I went to see the Theodore Roosevelt a few weeks back - just after I returned to the Camber, the fog descended. It was quite frightening as I realised how inexperienced I would be in such conditions.

It doesn't sound like there are many easy solutions to being stuck in fog, I certainly don't fancy my chances if I'm relying on sniffing seaweed...
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I have no experience of being in fog at sea and would be quite happy to keep it that way! However I wonder if there is a way to use the VHF to your advantage if you believe you may be a hazard to shipping (or vice versa!).

So - if there is a VTS covering the area - would talking to them help? they presumably have a radar picture of whats going on - checking in with them regularly with your position (which may not be obvious if you have a poor radar x-section).

Failing that would announcing your position, course and speed to "all stations" on Ch16 be appropriate? Almost like a manual version of AIS?
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Failing that would announcing your position, course and speed to "all stations" on Ch16 be appropriate? Almost like a manual version of AIS?
Yes its a good idea ask the GC if you can put in ops normals with them every 30mins or so on channel 16 to update them with your position when in heavy fog and as this is on 16 all other boats in the vicinity will hear this and be able to plot your position.

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If you are returning to the Camber in thick fog it may help monitoring Ch 11 as QHM may instgate fog routine. Although this will not directly affect you it does mean you will know larger movements around you.Fog routine states:-

Any vessel over 20 metres may not enter harbour or approach the main channel or leave her berth or mooring or weigh anchor except with permission of QHM.
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Can you really just generally say that without knowing which way the error is acting .

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i was trying to point out that its easy for novices to try keep on the safe side of things by adding a few deg in case they miss the point of intrest only then to be miles from where they want to be especially if its a wide estury and fog is causing disorientation .and not on about compass error ,but on that point make sure there is nothing going to error the compass keep everything well clear such as torch or radio anchor even the spare outboard ,regards mart
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AIS is great but remember not all large ships have it switched on!!! also the data is often wrong - 0kts in harbour could actually be 20kts exactly where you are!!!
errrr I thought anything above 600 tonnes & all passenger vessels have to by law!

Yes, some may still be transmitting "anchored" but the speed / heading data is driven straight from their GPS.
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Sound Signals at Intervals of no less than 2 Minutes

Power Moving: _ Power Stopped : _ _ Lame Ducks: _ . .

The diagram below is an easy way to remember which way to turn if you need to turn, imagine you are the blue arrow.

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Jono,

Could you translate the piccie into what I should be doing for/in each quadrant, had a load of rum last night head not to clear this morning.
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Jono,

Could you translate the piccie into what I should be doing for/in each quadrant, had a load of rum last night head not to clear this morning.
Hi Simon

Imagine you are the blue arrow.

If you detect a vessel on your -
Starboard Bow
Port Bow
Port Quarter

You have 2 options, carry on your course or turn to Starboard


If you detect a vessel on your Starboard Quarter

You have 2 options again, carry on your course or turn to Port


If you get the toy boats from the bath, put the 2 boats in various situations and apply these rules it will make sense

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