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Old 27 October 2009, 14:17   #1
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Flocoat or sika

I'm just about to stick 4 holes in my transom for the A frame bolts. I'm also going to be flocoating the deck. What would be better, sealing the inside of the hole with flocoat or sikaflex..or both?
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I'm just about to stick 4 holes in my transom for the A frame bolts. I'm also going to be flocoating the deck. What would be better, sealing the inside of the hole with flocoat or sikaflex..or both?
If your flocoating the deck you might as well do the holes at the same time but seal them with sika too.

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Old 27 October 2009, 14:51   #3
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If your flocoating the deck you might as well do the holes at the same time but seal them with sika too.

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Thanks James, I'll do that. Cheers mate
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I wouldn't

How can you seal a bolt hole with a substance that has no reisitance to impact. Last time i sniffed it Flo coat was a polyester resin with no glass reinforcement.

I'm taking a guess that the A frame has a bracket with two holes on one side of the transom and the bolts go throught the transome where they are fixed with penny washers and a myloc nut. I thats the case then paint the inside of the hole with epiglas and afyer that has dried ram it full of Sikaflex and do your bolting
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Not wanting to hijack the thread - but you flocoat because .....

Just checking if it's something we should be doing - have just bought some topcoat for the deck area

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Fair enough stu certainly a more thorough way of doing it.

Not sure of your question Knot Yet, Do you mean why do you use it over gel coat or why you seal the holes in the transom.

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Not wanting to hijack the thread - but you flocoat because .....

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.. because its a lot harder wearing than paint and also being polyester resin may well adhere a lot better to the underlying GRP (also polyester) than paint

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How can you seal a bolt hole with a substance that has no reisitance to impact. Last time i sniffed it Flo coat was a polyester resin with no glass reinforcement.

I'm taking a guess that the A frame has a bracket with two holes on one side of the transom and the bolts go throught the transome where they are fixed with penny washers and a myloc nut. I thats the case then paint the inside of the hole with epiglas and afyer that has dried ram it full of Sikaflex and do your bolting
Ohhh but I haven't got any epilepsyglas or afyer! I hate you Stu!!!
What is Epiglas buddy?
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.. because its a lot harder wearing than paint and also being polyester resin may well adhere a lot better to the underlying GRP (also polyester) than paint

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Hey Knot Yet! Andrew is a physicist and probably knows how the atoms work in the stuff However, I think its something that you apply during the construction of the hull/deck that protects the outer surface from damage and not something that you need to do to protect a boat in use. I could be wrong but hey ho... Who cares.... Not JSP cos he's now wondering where to get hold of the missing ingredients
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Epiglass is Internationals brand name for their epoxy. Other brands are available.

Flocoat is basically gelcoat with a wax additive in it to enable it cure properly in air - without the wax it retains a sticky surface.
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KY Your lovely boat don't need no stinking flocoat just yet unless the decks are very scruffy, It's not a paint as such and I don't think its particularly adhesive. What are you going to paint on your boat

JSP My usual compliments of TYpos afyer is actualy after. Transome is the bit wot the motor bolts on to and myloc is a new type of self locking nut I'd better invent, now that your's looking to buy one . Save yourself some money go to the pound shop by some 2 part epoxy and some cheap artist brushes and paint the inside of the hole and the drill exit points with the epoxy, Save yourself even more money and go to the 99p shop. Epiglas is much more liquified epoxy varnish but you'll get the same job done........ dont get the paint brush stuck in the hole! Why ever did I say that to you
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KY Your lovely boat don't need no stinking flocoat just yet unless the decks are very scruffy, It's not a paint as such and I don't think its particularly adhesive. What are you going to paint on your boat

JSP My usual compliments of TYpos afyer is actualy after. Transome is the bit wot the motor bolts on to and myloc is a new type of self locking nut I'd better invent, now that your's looking to buy one . Save yourself some money go to the pound shop by some 2 part epoxy and some cheap artist brushes and paint the inside of the hole and the drill exit points with the epoxy, Save yourself even more money and go to the 99p shop. Epiglas is much more liquified epoxy varnish but you'll get the same job done........ dont get the paint brush stuck in the hole! Why ever did I say that to you
Dear Stuart,
I have the uppermost respect for your knowledge. I shall go fourth to yonder pound shop (don't have 99p shops, there's a recession ya know!) and do that!
The Afyer self locking nuts seem just what I need to curb my baby making. Do I need to shave?

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Thanks RW - glad to hear I don't need it - I was going to paint the deck - not because it really needs it - just thought it would look a bit neater - and we are rebuilding the anchor box so will paint that at the same time

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If you can't get an afyer myloc nut a couple of tie wraps should curb it. Don't get your razors in the pound shop!
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Sikaflex for the holes - If you want to treat the wood first use G4.
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