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Old 04 January 2014, 20:43   #1
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Happy new year

My wife and I are getting ready for a cracking summer but I could do with some advise as to clothing:-

Fladen floatation suits - we have gill os2 jackets but need some waterproof leggings to go with them. I have seen the floatation suits at quite a reasonable price, are they suitable for ribbing?

Had a really good trip on Lake Windermere must had to turn round because the rain was horizontal and bloody painful on the face, can you recommend any goggles or any other option.

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The Fladen suits are good for windy, cold days with showers and the odd wave splash. For very wet days with regular wave splashes they don't cut the mustard and you WILL get very wet wearing one. That said, they are a safety item and wear very well. I'm looking for a replacement for mine after five seasons and can't decide what to go for....
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Hi Fellars Happy new year My wife and I are getting ready for a cracking summer but I could do with some advise as to clothing:- Fladen floatation suits - we have gill os2 jackets but need some waterproof leggings to go with them. I have seen the floatation suits at quite a reasonable price, are they suitable for ribbing? Had a really good trip on Lake Windermere must had to turn round because the rain was horizontal and bloody painful on the face, can you recommend any goggles or any other option. Cheers Steve Sent from my iPad using Rib.net
A word of warning. If you wear a floatation suit, it will limit the effectiveness of a "normal" (ie 150N) lifejacket. In tests we carried out with the University of Portsmouth we found that a person feigning unconsciousness was unlikely to be turned on to his/her back with the airway clear when wearing a floatation suit in combination with a 150N lifejacket. In my experience, people who choose to wear Fladen suits (or similar) have made that choice often for warmth and protection from rain and spray rather than for the floatation characteristics ... and I would argue that there are many other choices for keeping warm and dry that will work more effectively together with a lifejacket
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The Fladen suits are good for windy, cold days with showers and the odd wave splash. For very wet days with regular wave splashes they don't cut the mustard and you WILL get very wet wearing one. That said, they are a safety item and wear very well. I'm looking for a replacement for mine after five seasons and can't decide what to go for....
Come on Willk. You know you want a BS really, your just worried about all the stick Kerny will give you

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Come on Willk. You know you want a BS really, your just worried about all the stick Kerny will give you
I won't deny that I've considered one...

...briefly. It's the wee latex socks dude - they're pure mingin'
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In tests we carried out with the University of Portsmouth we found that a person feigning unconsciousness was unlikely to be turned on to his/her back
I'm unlikely to be feigning unconsciousness...

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Would Wilk prefer one of these.
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Would Wilk prefer one of these.
Is that a Jambo oops Jumbo suit

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Would Wilk prefer one of these.
I'm not quite sure what they are, but they're a little larger than my boat so I'll have to pass....
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The volunteers who took part in the experiments may have objected if we insisted on genuine unconsciousness. As it was, they endured enough hardship - we also measured the rate of body cooling when wearing different combinations of PPE ... so they spent 45 minutes or more in very cold water having their core temperature recorded (and I guess you know where the thermometer goes to measure core temperature)
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The volunteers who took part in the experiments may have objected if we insisted on genuine unconsciousness. As it was, they endured enough hardship - we also measured the rate of body cooling when wearing different combinations of PPE ... so they spent 45 minutes or more in very cold water having their core temperature recorded (and I guess you know where the thermometer goes to measure core temperature)
Sounds like very interesting research; have the findings been published anywhere?
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Sounds like very interesting research; have the findings been published anywhere?
Pm sent with a link , its long one but interesting .
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My wife and I are getting ready for a cracking summer but I could do with some advise as to clothing:-
First thing is you wouldn't want to wear one in summer, or even mild temperatures. I have a floatation suit and they are *very* warm even in icy conditions.

They are also quite bulky so I walk around a bit like the Michelin man on shore, but not bad when stood helming on the boat. Even in rough & wet conditions the combination didn't let in a drop of water.

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Fladen floatation suits - we have gill os2 jackets but need some waterproof leggings to go with them. I have seen the floatation suits at quite a reasonable price, are they suitable for ribbing?
Remember that it is very dangerous to wear floatation trousers without the floating jacket, or a decent lifejacket. If you fall in you don't want your bottom-half floating above your top half

FWIW I paid about £90 for mine.
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Pm sent with a link , its long one but interesting .

Very interesting indeed. I take my hat off to the guys and gals who undertake this type of scientific research work.

Luckily, when I was about eleven, my teachers and I agreed that an 'academic' career wasn't for me....
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can you recommend any goggles or any other option.

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These are excellent and do not steam up. You can get them cheaper than this on ebay if you look around.



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These are excellent and do not steam up. You can get them cheaper than this on ebay if you look around.

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