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Old 14 August 2016, 20:09   #1
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Flipping over a Sea rider

What's the best way to turn over an Avon Sea Rider Adventure 4.7 ?

The one I purchased has an awful lot of damage on the hull that needs some attention so I wondered which way you guys would suggest turning the boat over to be able to repair it all ?





If I drop it off the trailer onto the ground & then lift one side of the boat so its resting on its side / Tube & then carefully completely turn it over, will the tube be ok with all the weight on it ?, Will the joint where the hull is adhered to the tube be ok with all that weight on it when it gets to the point when its completely vertical & all the weight is support by that one glued joint ??




Any sugestions how to turn it over safely without causing further damage to the boat would much appreciated please

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Flipping over a Sea rider

4 blokes,a pack of beer,4 empty beer crates & a couple of pallets.

Feed said blokes pack of beer, stack 2x2 beer crates on 2 pallets to form 2 towers. Use 4 blokes to pick up boat & turn over, place upside down on beer crate/pallet stacks. Job done. Tweak/adjust height-position of beer crates to suit boat config.


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Ask Matt h the can turn a sr over on his own
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Old 14 August 2016, 21:21   #4
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where in the south west are you fred?
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Old 14 August 2016, 21:42   #5
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Boats in cheddar but I live at junction 25
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No problem I was just going to offer a hand but I'm a little way from you
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You could use hay/straw bales as the props easier to find in cheddar than beer probably..... If your friendly with a farmer see if he will pop round with a manitou (loader) or tractor with front forks and a couple of strops.....
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tarpaulin on the floor. two people , when at half way point.. one person switches sides to lower. make sure tubes are not hard for touchdown
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Very easy. 2 person job. Winch it off onto grass, flip it over onto tarp.
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tarpaulin on the floor. two people , when at half way point.. one person switches sides to lower. make sure tubes are not hard for touchdown
Great Thanks, So there no problem resting it on the tube as you turn it over !

After 2 stroke mick mentioned you, I searched you & read your sea rider thread (which is brilliant)
So in this pic where you can see the the bare Fibreglass, have you just filled the holes with Gellcoat ?.


I got some scratches / deep gourges (I get some pics later) which I bought some Gellcoat filler, should I just of bought the Gellcoat ? (although it is colour matched, 9010 pure white !)

Gelcoat Filler - RAL 9010 Pure White (inc catalyst) - East Coast Fibreglass Supplies



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Hi Fred
I etched it out with a dremel. cleaned with acetone and re gelcoated. then polished with a GMOP and paste
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great job that Matt when you did the gel-coat did you cover it to go off or is it a special gel for interest.
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TBH Jeff. it was a bitch, i hate gel coat. labour of hate springs to mind international Orange from east or west coast supplies
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i know it stays tacky hence flow coat with wax added just wounded if you had vacuum bagged not easy i know or if you just cut through the tacky bit on to fully cured.
reason i am asking i made a console for the sib but covered with flow coat [ply frame then glassed over ] but i left a mottled finish to match the seat and wear pads on the boat.never had to do a job like that but nice to know good job you could turn her over real pain if not.

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For small gel coat repairs I use brown 2" parcel tape to hold the gel in place & keep the air out.


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For small gel coat repairs I use brown 2" parcel tape to hold the gel in place & keep the air out.


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we turned the boat over today
In the end we used the jockey wheel to raise the bow high & tied it off to a roof RSJ & then raised the stern with some slings chained to a front loader.










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Lots of repairs to be done
Allready started with Gelcoat filler & after see Matt H post, was thinking of doing the smaller ones with Gelcoat !, until I saw the comments about needing to keep the air out ?
what exactly does this mean please ?? (how do you get around it please ?)

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As PD said. use 2 inch parcel tape. you gotta reform the chines in some cases so lay the tape down exposing the damage and re gel then roll the tape back to stick down.

Fred. I'm no way near an expert on bodywork as I hate doing it. Im sort of suggesting as the amount of scratching and gouging is large, that the whole lot should be done as one complete job otherwise you going to be chasing your backside so to speak.
My damage on mine was minimal as shown and was built up entirely of gelcoat and shaped using packing tape
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