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Old 17 March 2009, 05:16   #41
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I have one of these + normal flares, no idea if it's any good

http://www.rescue-flares.co.uk/Rescue_laser_flare.html
Had a play with this last night it showed on the trees and chimney pots on the far side of the village 600 -700m even with all of the light pollution, it gives off a flat bar of light.

And no helicopter turned up, which i think is good


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Old 17 March 2009, 05:17   #42
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i dont see why with modern chemicals that the expirery dates cannot be made longer to at least 5 years rather than around 3 ,and i dont see why hand helds cannot be set off on bonfire night in inland areas with care ,i know with the para ones they could still be burning and land on a house roof possibly setting fire to the plastic gutters ect ,
Profits for flare manufacturers would dip if the replacement date changed to 5 years, so they are not going to do that without a fight.

We used up our old hand held flares over the Christmas holiday whilst having a bonfire in the garden, great for getting it going with a drop of petrol btw. All the expired 2006 or later hand helds fired first time, however some 2005 flares didn't and had to be left on the bonfire to cook. The orange smokes were set off at night so they didn't cause a problem.

Is there still a justification to carry flares? I think so but will probably now reduce the quantity down to hand helds and smoke.

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Couple of questions,

With LED's and lasers your relying on small batteries to not let you down, ones that aren't fond of water. I know there's already small battery powered things in the marine world but when it comes to a matter of life and death, would you fell safe relying on them?

And I've got a tub of out of date coastle flares in the shed, what the hell do I do with them now ?
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With LED's and lasers your relying on small batteries to not let you down, ones that aren't fond of water. I know there's already small battery powered things in the marine world but when it comes to a matter of life and death, would you fell safe relying on them?
Life jacket lights, PLBs, VHF, etc all potentially life saving and all battery powered, and many of them are quite reliable. There are certainly reports of both in and out of date flares failing to fire so not sure it is any worse.
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call your local CG (not 999) and ask if you can drop them in at a convenient time.
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Life jacket lights, PLBs, VHF, etc all potentially life saving and all battery powered, and many of them are quite reliable. There are certainly reports of both in and out of date flares failing to fire so not sure it is any worse.
That's a bloody good point!
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I thought they weren't taking them anymore?
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I thought they weren't taking them anymore?
they don't want to take them any more, thats not the same thing! they know that without a viable alternative people will just dump them off the side of their boats at sea and then they wash up on the beach and are the CG's problem.
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And I've got a tub of out of date coastle flares in the shed, what the hell do I do with them now ?
Guess you never played pass the parcel then

You could leave them on board for the next owner
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they don't want to take them any more
thats a bold statement and who are "they"????
As said before we will take them at our cg station from private bods but we wont come out for them so JSP does not have a problem let me know and i will meet you there when I have a spare moment - which is not for a week or three cos I am run off m'feet just now - holland this week IoM week after
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We used up our old hand held flares over the Christmas holiday whilst having a bonfire in the garden, great for getting it going with a drop of petrol btw.
Once upon a time there was a party round mine at which there were a lot of drunken divers (oddly enough)... What was strange was that by 0400 there was still a lot of drink left and therefore, no sign of the divers departing.

This WAS an emergency. I found an out of date flare and suggested we fire it in the garden - the entire place emptied out for the spectacle after which I said Goodnight, Goodbye and shut the door
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Had a play with this last night it showed on the trees and chimney pots on the far side of the village 600 -700m even with all of the light pollution, it gives off a flat bar of light.

And no helicopter turned up, which i think is good


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How wide was the beam - it may have had long range but how big an area did it light up?
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