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Old 06 November 2014, 06:03   #41
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2hrs each way for me (assuming Liverpool will take them).

I won't be buying pyro flares. I have two which I inherited with Clamchowder which will need disposing of next year and after that I will be using all other methods at my disposal. I already have a VHF, handheld, and a plb. I know there are instances where flares could be a good thing to have, but they're just too much hassle and too dangerous.
Sorry can't agree with you!..and although this thread has lost its way somewhat...And given they can be a PITA with exspence...storage...use by dates...and disposal hassell...for me ,I still think they should be a part of,and indeed in everyone's saftey kit...Especially if you venture offshore....Together that is,with the OTHER kit you list
It's a BIG Ol Sea out there! And lots of things can,and Do go wrong!
Like "someone"?? said!
...."I know there are instances where flares could be a thing to have" !!..ME TOO!
IMO it's worth the the Hassel...if you do need them,you'll be very Glad you've got them!!
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Old 06 November 2014, 08:21   #42
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Don't be sorry. I'm just stating my position on the issue for what it's worth (i.e. not much). You're welcome to disagree.

It's like anything else; there are lots of bits of safety kit which might be good to have, and there is a personal calculation to be made re each one where you factor in cost, convenience, availability, effectiveness etc etc etc. In this particular case flares strike me as too much hassle and too dangerous (letting off a controlled explosion in a bathtub next to 130litres of petrol?... yes please!), but that's just me personally.

I think that something to guide potential rescuers in once within visual distance is a job that a laser rescue flare could do without the added risk of fire/explosions. I know a smoke would be better for daylight but again it's a personal calculation. We haven't really gone that far offshore yet so that's a factor too.
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When I dropped my flares of with Solent Coastguard they had recently received one that expired in 1965.
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Old 06 November 2014, 09:24   #44
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Small "w" in willk, please

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Large 'P' in pedant ?
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I was in Scarborough last night and someone was firing red rocket flares over the South Bay. I was a mile or so to the South and they were still very noticeable even amongst the fireworks
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Old 06 November 2014, 10:21   #47
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Large 'P' in pedant ?
Pedant certainly seems to be the term that's finding favour in our times:

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a person who is excessively concerned with minor details and rules or with displaying academic learning.

I can see how it would appeal - previously when someone wouldn't let one do what one wanted - one could call them a Bully, but that's very last week. Pedant is MUCH better - how dare s/he take the shine off my glory by knowing stuff that I don't - or invoking Rules I don't agree with - Outrageous behaviour!

You won't need the chair smiley BTW, on the contrary, we're going to "love you and squeeze you and call you George" and keep you for training purposes - just like Mollers!
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Does for those that don't have a trailer
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Does for those that don't have a trailer

Shhhh! Let them think that's all there is........


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New years eve used to be pretty bad in eastern part of Baltic sea, sky totally full of red flares, happened to see it a couple of times, unreal sight. Don't think its that bad these days.

Over here boating clubs arranges training and "live" disposal of old flares, you can bring Your old own ones(max 7 years from manufacturing date due to safety reasons).

Otherwise a red flare will automatically trigger a SAR operation, and if You get caught for fooling a round, You pay the serch (only a heli is about 10000 eur/h), will be fined, maximum sentence is 2 years jail(dont know if that ever used, guess not). Think that due to the firm regulation flare related issues pretty rare but still not unheard of.
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