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Old 05 November 2014, 17:42   #31
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In which case, maybe the CG would be better setting up a friendly TEP disposal network rather than p1$$ing about with warning posters! The current arrangement is silly. Boaters are either encouraged or forced to carry them and then they become "the old man of the sea" and you can't get rid of them.
I ain't disagreeing with you.

Something to be said for an equivalent of WEEE regulations. But the cost of flares would presumably rise.
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Old 05 November 2014, 17:43   #32
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If the cg are in any doubt they will investigate / search. Only a dick would needlessly set a para off at sea / the coast.
The country is full of dicks
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Old 06 November 2014, 01:27   #33
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Flares are surprisingly difficult to get rid of. Even the local rnli centre who take them,is 25 miles away and they only take them on every 15th Tuesday, f there is a full moon and your stood on both hands upside down.

I have about 15 unwanted flares. At least on bonfire night there is a lot of other stuff in the Sky to distract from a hand held flare in a inland garden.
Sorry, but I disagree entirely. I telephoned Solent Coastguard and made an appointment, turned up at the agreed time, handed over the flares and filled in a form before going home. All very friendly, pain-free and quick.

Forty minutes each way but I knew they had been disposed off completely legally and safely: I didn't have to worry about having time expired flares knocking around or whether I could get away with firing them on 5th November.



You may recall the supporter at a (Southampton?) football match killed by a rocket flare fired across the ground.
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Old 06 November 2014, 03:01   #35
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No. But any(?) coastguard station will accept them. Even ribnetters who live in the most landlocked part of the country will probably go near the sea at some point!

Many chandlers will accept flares on a like-for-like basis when buying new ones, e.g., buy two flares, hand in two flares.

My point is that it is not as easy as handing them in at the local cop shop* (" 'elf and safety, Sir") but it isn't impossible.

(Ignoring the risk of driving TEPs in a car on busy roads for a prolonged time)

* When I was a lad in the 1970s each cop-shop had a bomb shelter for all the WWII ordnance that schoolchildren used to dig up / find.
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But the world does not revolve around the solent.
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......You tell THEM that!
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No. But any(?) coastguard station will accept them.
No, only a select range do. As an extreme example, if you are in oban you are looking at 4 hr drive to the nearest one, which isn't actually manned so presumably has rather restricted opening hours.
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2hrs each way for me (assuming Liverpool will take them).

I won't be buying pyro flares. I have two which I inherited with Clamchowder which will need disposing of next year and after that I will be using all other methods at my disposal. I already have a VHF, handheld, and a plb. I know there are instances where flares could be a good thing to have, but they're just too much hassle and too dangerous.
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Ignoring the pedantry of Willk & Poly ...surely if 'we' ( a collective of boat users) choose to carry pyro flares we must also take responsibility or disposing of them safely ?

They are in effect a controlled explosion in a tube - so never to be used or handled without respect .

'We' (down south) are lucky to have places close to dispose of them. I've happily taken a small arsenal of TEP to the RNLI in Poole for ribnetters. The RNLI get charged to dispose of them but are still very helpful despite the fact that some of what they get given I felt nervous looking at let alone handling !

Its a re-occurring debate about their usefulness - the advent of DSC & PLB covering most situations a pyro flare could be needed.

If anyone has TEP and wants them correctly disposed of PM me - arrange to meet me or come on the Nacho run etc and I'll take them & swing by the RNLI for you ( which I can do in my lunch hour)

However unless you are down south this might be that helpful.
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