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Old 07 January 2013, 13:33   #1
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Hi where would you recomend to go to buy flares (not trousres ) a lot of chandlers seem to have stopped stocking them ( new regs on storage ? )& postage costs are high due to special license for pyrotchnics .thanks for any advice.
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Old 07 January 2013, 13:37   #2
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At the moment flares are worth having. It is only a matter of time before something better replaces them but that has not happened yet.

I would try a different shop
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Old 07 January 2013, 14:07   #3
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What are people's views on Odeo Flare? It looks interesting (but expensive) and not a replacement for all flares, but I guess until it gets SOLAS recognition its only to be considered a curiosity rather than an alternative.
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What are people's views on Odeo Flare? It looks interesting (but expensive) and not a replacement for all flares,
Its only a handheld flare, the holy grail must surely be fore something that does a job similar to a parachute? For not far off this money a PLB is not far off doing that, and potentially more effective. SPR on here sells a cheaper alternative but it doesn't have the all round effect - so you need to direct or wave if about.

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but I guess until it gets SOLAS recognition its only to be considered a curiosity rather than an alternative.
really? you need SOLAS to rubber stamp it to say its OK? Unless you are a commercial skipper make up your own mind, VHF(Fixed and Handheld) + PLB + Mobile phone + Torch and possibly then only reason you would then need a flare is to guide the helo / lifeboat in for the last mile... On a small rib/sib with petrol close at hand and vulnerable tubes there are many reasons why a small handheld flare is unattractive.
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... On a small rib/sib with petrol close at hand and vulnerable tubes there are many reasons why a small handheld flare is unattractive.
Steady ...not many smaller then mine..I went out with ;

PLB
DSC handheld
8 mini flares pack
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Just to go to the isle of wight !

Overkill?....until I need help.....then they all get a turn in suitable order

I'd not hesitate to use any/all should the need arise.
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Peter, I didn't say don't or overkill - but if I offered you an Odeo flare as a free replacement for the singe red would you take it? (Lasts longer, no risk of burning materials falling onto your tubes or fuel etc,) or would you see it as just a novelty?
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What I mean by SOLAS recognition is that the laser 'flare' moves from being a product being marketed to something officially recognised as being fit for purpose. As far as I can see, there are no like for like tests of Odeo vs traditional flare in a number of scenarios so I have nothing to tell me that it really is fit for purpose as a genuine recognised alternative to a flare. As far as my RNLI is concerned, they recommend me carrying a selection of flares and not an Odeo flare and for the reasons that you mention, a flare in a small sib is less attractive than what it basically a harmless torch.

I'm still in the process of kitting out and I'm leaving off the purchase of flare or alternative till the last possible moment. Hence my interest in this alternative. Unfortunately, on another forum, its launch was not well received and one ends up wondering whether the forum members do indeed have valid points or the device is really as good as the makers say. Until it is independently tested (difficult I would imagine to carry out a comparison against a traditional flare without some form of official assistance), you have only got one set of flare fanboys word against another in the same way that there seem to be anchor fanboys and VHF fanboys, to name a few.
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Peter, I didn't say don't or overkill - but if I offered you an Odeo flare as a free replacement for the singe red would you take it? (Lasts longer, no risk of burning materials falling onto your tubes or fuel etc,) or would you see it as just a novelty?
I'd take it as well..... if I could fit a lifeboat in I'd have one

even on a small boat ...take everything ! Thats my thought ....

Like a small selection of kit on my person I take each trip attached...and that was just on Steves coded 9m 500hp Parker with 2 liferafts etc etc
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Look at Greatland Rescue Lasers - long range, good battery life and proven tech., been on market for about 10 years, supplied to USA government and military and I have supplied to UK Government & Military.

If you want 3 mile range IMHO I would buy a LED strobe or button lights or a high powered flashlight - cost 12 for button light.

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I'd always have some flares with me - keep them in an emergency grab bag with the first aid kit. Nice to have something not dependant on electricity.

How about plan in a day at the seaside to buy some then (I see you are inland) - I guess inland firms are less likely to stock them ? I prefer to pick them up personally these days.

Agree about mail order - ordered them once from Marine Megastore (with extra for "special postage") and they arrived like this - squashed and no warnings on the box etc. Courier company terminated their account when it found out - other folk may do it more responsibly.

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