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Old 13 September 2013, 03:27   #71
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Boris, free of charge kit may not be the best way to get truly impartial and independent views on the performance. I'm sure it's in the financial reach of either the rnli or powerboat and rib if they care enough!
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Old 13 September 2013, 03:42   #72
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I'm going to have a look ropund the boat show to see if anyone has any laser flares I can 'handle' , then buy a couple off SPR ( maybe a bulk buy epic! ) ? ) Maybe suzuki could sponsor some tests? and find a winner

I feel quite confident that between DSC HH / PLB & laser flare - some one will find me or the boat pretty quickly if ever needed .

As was said its all about options in the event of needed help.
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Old 13 September 2013, 04:08   #73
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Maybe suzuki could sponsor some tests? and find a winner
PeterM - Surely it's Mazda who are in "distress"?

Boris - your VHF issue is commonplace, in my experience a result of rotten copper being able to supply the amps required for TX. You MAY need to rewire all the way back to the busbar and beyond. Cut a bit of wire to check if it has blackened.
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Old 13 September 2013, 04:26   #74
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Hi Chris,

I am Uk & Ireland Importer of the Greatland Rescue Laser Flares and TRADE member

I carry Orange Smoke and 2 Paras in my my safety kit - but this Is because my boat was used for RYA courses and sometimes lead boat on cruises.

If I was not doing above, my boat safety kit would be:

buoyant orange smoke
PLB
icom DSC handheld with fist mic
AIS personal SART (only item I don't have)
Lifejacket Light
High Powered LED light (fenix pd30)

I carry GREEN rescue laser flare, unless I given it out on demo - I have a red light one on my car keys.

does this help you?

The Rescue Laser Flare Is designed to guide in your rescuer AFTER help has been raised by other means - VHF, AiS or PLB or dreaded mobile phone ....

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Thanks for the info SPR. Why do you carry red and green laser flares? What are the pros and con's of each? Do i need both or just one? Do the emergency services in the UK recognise a green laser as a distress / this is where I am marker.

Will a laser flare be effective in daylight hours.

Sorry about all the questions.

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Thanks for the info SPR. Why do you carry red and green laser flares? What are the pros and con's of each? Do i need both or just one? Do the emergency services in the UK recognise a green laser as a distress / this is where I am marker.

Will a laser flare be effective in daylight hours.

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Good questions Chris, I'm interested meself, so await the answers. I have made a policy decision not to replace my out of date flares, so am in the market for a viable alternative.
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I spoke with an RNLI chappie at London boat show about laser flares as I was interested in the odeo flare at the time.

He told me about a sea trial performed where various emergency services were involved/present and none of the laser flares performed to their satisfaction and they could not yet recommend laser flares as an alternative to pyrotechnic based flares.
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And of course they don't work in low viz/ the general public mostly have no idea what they are and as such are unlikely to call 999/ they are NOT approved by SOLAS/IMO/etc despite what the manufacturers and sellers would have you believe.

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I think that laser flares are the way to go and as for the general public maybe a good advertising campaign would make them more aware.

The lasers that SPR sells (Greatland) do fan out when moved in a certain way.

As they get more popular maybe the prices will come down a bit, in time
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One of the models is enough the red laser light is smaller and easier to carry on keys and most popular - so I carry it, to show people it.

Green model is brighter and better in day light.

I have supplied RNLI sea safety team with samples on there Request and they have been tested and now recommended as below:

They are NOT s replacement for Orange Smoke or Parachute.

NOT a primary means of distress - but secondary means Of guiding rescuer to your location as I said once PLB or VHF is used etc.

Feed back was the NAME flare gave people the wrong expectation, but Rescue Laser by it self would been better - expectations and all .

Daylight range : around 3miles
Night range : around 25 /30 miles

an independent review:

http://www.equipped.org/rescuelaser.htm

As all safety equipment it's having a variety of options to use - and the Greatland Rescue laser is SMALL Effective bit of Kit that can AID your rescue.

All new models supplied has the new fore sight to aid aiming.



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Kerny - I am slave to the dollar rate - but will give free case and some retro reflective solas V tape with any RIBnet order - email: info@sprmarine.co.uk after placing it.

Also remember: you only need to buy once! then it is just battery replacement. CR123A or AA

Greatland Rescue Laser / SPR has never marketed, it being type approved I think all my responses are Clear what they are designed for and limitations.

They are tests happening in USA right now, and we hope they will approve this as alternative to pyro's - but we realistically think they will say:

"Alternative to Pyro's IF a PLB and/or VHF radio is carried too" and to us this would be great, since this is where we see it fitting in.



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