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Old 06 November 2007, 15:57   #21
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Or more likely they will point out that they are out of date and that there is an expiry date for a reason...

Given Pete7's comments about his not firing first time - is it possible that you just weren't assertive enough with them? I am assuming you have little experience with in date flares to know that your technique is correct?
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Old 06 November 2007, 16:37   #22
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Or more likely they will point out that they are out of date and that there is an expiry date for a reason...

Given Pete7's comments about his not firing first time - is it possible that you just weren't assertive enough with them? I am assuming you have little experience with in date flares to know that your technique is correct?

I think flares not working is often user error , and if you haven't had the chance to practice with a few then they are as much danger as they are use .

I went to an flare demmo a few years back organised by a local canoe club . I sourced a box of 30 plus out of date flares of all types from a liferaft refurb company . There were loads of different makes in the box , many unusual foriegn ones I had never seen . Only one failed out of the whole lot, but lots of folk had problems letting the things off .
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Old 06 November 2007, 16:58   #23
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Same here i did a yacht course and the guy did a flare firing course
including parachutes, but he did tell the coast guard
we found that all the ones that did not go off, it was down to the way it was
fired, when the guy showed you what to do and that you really had to hit the bottom of the flare.
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Given Pete7's comments about his not firing first time - is it possible that you just weren't assertive enough with them?
Fair point, I was concerned to ensure that when it was struck it was facing away from me just in case. The firing pin did go all the way home because I looked at it to check to see what was wrong. Second strike was much harder and worked. Still have some left so will have a go with the rest of the hand helds, but its too built up to use the rockets and Salisbury Plain to far a drive.

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As a little lateral comment:

Most of you are far from condoning the action of setting off these devices.

Personally I think it is a good idea to experience how they work in a non-distress situation.
Whether you attend a 'display' or set off your old ones I'll leave to you to decide.

For those of you who are adamant that they should never be set off except in an emergency can you PLEASE tell me where I can take my old out of date pieces?
I have a growing quantity in the garage...and that in itself can not be good

If I walk into a Police Station with them I believe they are bound to take them , but then have a mountain of paperwork cos some muppet walked into the building carrying explosive devices

I was told a couple of years ago that the Coastguard would happily accept them, but this doesnt seem to be the case anymore.

Of course we can't just drop them overboard either............

So, all you people who wouldnt dream of letting one off, where do you dispose of yours and is there a cost?

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Personally I think it is a good idea to experience how they work in a non-distress situation.
I think everyone would agree with that
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Whether you attend a 'display' or set off your old ones I'll leave to you to decide.
but (a) the law has decided that (b) if it doesn't fire you have no idea if it is your technique or because it is out of age (as per discussion above)
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For those of you who are adamant that they should never be set off except in an emergency can you PLEASE tell me where I can take my old out of date pieces?
I have a growing quantity in the garage...and that in itself can not be good
http://www.pwss.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=138
http://www.rnli.org.uk/who_we_are/me...rticleid=98804
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http://www.aberdeencoastguardcrt.co.uk/Pyros.htm
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If I walk into a Police Station with them I believe they are bound to take them , but then have a mountain of paperwork cos some muppet walked into the building carrying explosive devices

I was told a couple of years ago that the Coastguard would happily accept them, but this doesnt seem to be the case anymore.
have you asked them? If (as the aberdeen link above suggests) they don't want you walking into the office with a box of potential bombs - then they will be able to advise you how to get rid of them. I think what they are suggesting above is that local CG stations can take them but the MRCC (central offices) cannot.

In my opinion - the best way is via the chandler who sells you the replacements. He should be sending them back to manufacturer not just taking them to the local coastguard though.
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As a little lateral comment:

Most of you are far from condoning the action of setting off these devices.

Personally I think it is a good idea to experience how they work in a non-distress situation.
Whether you attend a 'display' or set off your old ones I'll leave to you to decide.

For those of you who are adamant that they should never be set off except in an emergency can you PLEASE tell me where I can take my old out of date pieces?
I have a growing quantity in the garage...and that in itself can not be good

If I walk into a Police Station with them I believe they are bound to take them , but then have a mountain of paperwork cos some muppet walked into the building carrying explosive devices

I was told a couple of years ago that the Coastguard would happily accept them, but this doesnt seem to be the case anymore.

Of course we can't just drop them overboard either............

So, all you people who wouldnt dream of letting one off, where do you dispose of yours and is there a cost?

Cheers,

Orve.
I did a RYA sea survival course a couple of years back. A highlight of that was setting of flares (coastguard clearly informed first). It was v useful trying different brands and one lesson was how different /difficult it was to set some off - oh and hot. I now always check how each boats work as I really dont want to be working out how to set the dam thing off in the middle of the night in a gale!

However, we used out of date flares (all worked when set off properly). You might want tto see if one of the schools want to take them off your hands to dispose of them.
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You might also check with your local fire department, if the other options don't work for you. In most cases in the US, they'll take them.

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If I walk into a Police Station with them I believe they are bound to take them , but then have a mountain of paperwork cos some muppet walked into the building carrying explosive devices
I took mine to the local police station.
Figured I really should get rid of them as they were 10 years or more out of date some of them, they'd been sat around in DAd's garage since I was a kid
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I would love to have an organised flare firing demo arranged, I've never fired one before and hope never to have to.

So who's interested in setting one up? I'm quite happy to arrange it locally.
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