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Old 31 March 2017, 00:57   #1
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Fitting Rowlocks to a Valiant Rib

On the last 2 outings the outboard on my 3.4 m Valiant rib has conked out. I only have a paddle and this is not much good in the tide. The valiant does not have Rowlocks. Has anyone fitted Rowlocks to a Valiant Rib and if so any links etc would be helpful

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Old 31 March 2017, 02:38   #2
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If I'm right in remembering the last time I was close to a Valiant like yours the grab line is to the outside of the top centre line of the tube so the area where a rowlock pad needs to go is free. Assuming the Valiant is PVC there are a whole selection of arrangements you could fit. Glueing on a new part to a clean section of PVC is easy, as long as you keep it all tidy it will look OE.

When you have the parts just sit where suits best in a facing transom position and fix where the oars work out the best position to use.

Choice of glue on pads here... Rowlock Pads - PVC Boat Spares

Rowlocks here... Rowlocks - Oars, Paddles, Rowlocks

Oars here... Aluminium & Wooden Oars - Oars, Paddles, Rowlocks

Probably the most in keeping look for your RIB and one where you are saved needing a separate rowlock is the Honwave style pad and oar.

PVC Rowlock with Pin Grey Honwave, QS, Wetline & XM & Alu Oars Including Hole Jointed Grey (Pair)

Not saying these guys are the cheapest but just a good selection to link to.
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Old 31 March 2017, 02:40   #3
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If your engine has let you down twice, then there's an underlying problem that needs sorted. Yes you can row, but rowing a rib, in anything but calm waters without tidal currents can be hard going.

Forget any of the Zodiac type row locks, they'll simply disintegrate one you put your back into it. Avon molded nylon rowlocks can take some severe punishment. Rubber Avon Rowlock Block 380mm x140mm Grey

As far as I know Valiant boats are PU (polyurethane), so you'll need the right glue to fit this accessory and preparation on the boat material including sand rowlock area, degrease, mask off, etc. Heat and humidity are key too if fitting - so read instructions.

My advice - get that engine sorted or replace it!
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Old 31 March 2017, 03:01   #4
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>>>My advice - get that engine sorted or replace it!

Yes that was my first thought... see BPs engine issue thread.

In a single engine smallcraft I'd not give an unreliable engine a second chance. In all my time boating I've only had OBs stop twice and both times it was crew sitting/treading on fuel lines. Easily resolved but the moment the OB died both times it really concentrates the mind at sea.
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Old 31 March 2017, 04:54   #5
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If your engine has let you down twice, then there's an underlying problem that needs sorted. Yes you can row, but rowing a rib, in anything but calm waters without tidal currents can be hard going.

Forget any of the Zodiac type row locks, they'll simply disintegrate one you put your back into it. Avon molded nylon rowlocks can take some severe punishment. Rubber Avon Rowlock Block 380mm x140mm Grey

As far as I know Valiant boats are PU (polyurethane), so you'll need the right glue to fit this accessory and preparation on the boat material including sand rowlock area, degrease, mask off, etc. Heat and humidity are key too if fitting - so read instructions.

My advice - get that engine sorted or replace it!
I am indeed getting the engine sorted. The rowlocks are a back up. I don't think ditching a £2300 engine just because you have an issue for the first time is the answer. Things like this can happen with brand new kit.

Thanks for the Rowlocks advice

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Things like this can happen with brand new kit.

Oh no they don't. Well at least they shouldn't.
Good luck with rowing in less than ideal conditions.
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Oh no they don't. Well at least they shouldn't.
Good luck with rowing in less than ideal conditions.
So am I to assume that if you get a problem with an engine and it conks out your solution is just to dump it and buy a new one. I am afraid many people don't have that sort of budget and also prefer to work through an issue till it is sorted.

On the argument about new things how do you explain the many recalls that happen
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So am I to assume that if you get a problem with an engine and it conks out your solution is just to dump it and buy a new one. I am afraid many people don't have that sort of budget and also prefer to work through an issue till it is sorted.

So you have a brand new motor and it's broken down both times you've been out! Well that's appalling, hope you get it sorted.
Where you get the idea that my solution is to dump it and buy another one is absurd. My comment only referred to the difficulty in rowing a rib in an emergency, and not rely on this to get you out of trouble. Most ribs and some sibs don't have rowlocks as they are too wide and high out of the water to effectively row. Hence a couple of paddles.
Don't rely on either in an emergency. Depending where you boat consider carrying on board a vhf, anchor, sea anchor and even an aux motor if venturing far.
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...just because you have an issue for the first time is the answer.
I wouldn't be dumping it either, and even new engines can have dodgy fuel or primer bulbs that would clearly be crazy to bin an engine for.

Rowing a rib is hard (and inefficient). Given the cost of rowlocks, proper glue, and oars I'd be looking at cheap 2hp o/boards.
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>>>So you have a brand new motor

I think it just sounds like BP's engine is new from some of the ways he's phrased his comments... I'm sure I remember its 10yrs old???
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