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Old 26 September 2008, 15:23   #11
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Matt - in a serious stuff is there a risk that the crew could be washed right out the back? whats the TV ariel for on the stern?
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no more likely than any other RIB, its very safe, very steady and can take quite a pounding, the crew are normally standing and thus learn to take the shock of waves through thier leg muscles, the console is reasonably enclosed, in the sense it is wrapped at the side and keeps the crew firmly in place.
she also got a lot of grunt (Iveco NEF 400hp Turbo Charged 6 Cylinder Diesel) so is never short of power to get you out the poo.

the "TV ariel" on the stern is a fold down boarding ladder is actually mainly used when the RIB is on its trailer.
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no more likely than any other RIB, its very safe, very steady and can take quite a pounding, the crew are normally standing and thus learn to take the shock of waves through thier leg muscles, the console is reasonably enclosed, in the sense it is wrapped at the side and keeps the crew firmly in place.
I can see that the console does offer plenty of protection for crew who are behind it (but perhaps not "survivors" who would also be less experienced on what to expect). With no engines or transom anyone getting washed to the back would be in the sea.

Compared to a "normal" rib I would think that standing up with no leaning post, no jockey seats etc. would make you more inclined to fall over. Whether it is better to fall over in an open transomed (jet) boat or to smack a load of hardware on the way backwards may be a different matter.

Not criticising it. Just interested in how you balanced the different hazards/risks. If you do decide you need a transom I'll swap it for my 3.9m boat complete with transom - i'll even deliver it FOC
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Old 26 September 2008, 15:38   #13
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Richard, did you do this in a head sea or a following sea?
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Old 26 September 2008, 15:42   #14
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Polwart,

Is a good point and when it comes to survivors it really depends on how many you have on board, most of the time they are placed in the bow which is a fair size and is open, they are then away from any towlines or equipment that may be being used on deck.

Grab rails run the whole boat length down the side of the main engine compartment so always something to hold onto,

As with regards to balance, the boat as said before is very stable , but with four crew in the console it you almost support each other, you can lean against the side of the console and there is small back supports on the engine hatch directly behind the Coxswain and radio operator, these are built into the engine hatch and again a couple of survivors can be placed on them if conditions are that bad and if they are wet/cold or first aid is being administered etc,

all good points though

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If you do decide you need a transom I'll swap it for my 3.9m boat complete with transom - i'll even deliver it FOC
nice suggestion but think i may love this boat too much
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I know you like a little banter Mollers, but there are wave conditions that have caught many out. Perhaps your's is still to come
I don't agree. I've not come across a rogue hole or trough. If conditions dictate, one keeps the one hand on the 'loud stick' and eyes full ahead. 'Wave conditions' don't just sneak up on you.
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I don't agree. I've not come across a rogue hole or trough. If conditions dictate, one keeps the one hand on the 'loud stick' and eyes full ahead. 'Wave conditions' don't just sneak up on you.
The Scene - Gypsy Rose's tent

"Yes, I see a wave, a BIG wave...
... it has something written on it....
... it says "Mullet", no, I think it's "Mollers"
... does this have any meaning for you?"

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"Yes, I see a wave, a BIG wave...
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... it says "Mullet", no, I think it's "Mollers"
... does this have any meaning for you?"

Yep, thanks for that. I'll pass on the heather and the tarmac, but I'll take a dozen pegs.
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I don't agree. I've not come across a rogue hole or trough. If conditions dictate, one keeps the one hand on the 'loud stick' and eyes full ahead. 'Wave conditions' don't just sneak up on you.

Not off Mollulnan beach they don't


But seriously, you need to try the Solent on a rough day with wind against tide and I'll almost guarantee you'll find a hole or a trough and nosedive into it before you can cut the throttle unless you're doing displacement speeds.
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I don't agree. 'Wave conditions' don't just sneak up on you.

And if you've ever navigated in the North Minch, that phrase could haunt you..... .. no malice intended.. but that confidence would be a mistake here
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IMO this could have had a very unhappy ending. Coming to a sudden stop when the nose buried you could have smashed your head on the console, got knocked out and then washed over the side. Next thing you and the boat are getting smashed into little pieces on the rocks.

I used to push my boat pretty hard on lumpy passages, getting the prop out the water every dozen or so waves, until the 2 clamp bolts under the powerhead sheared off and my 150 evinrude ended up 40m down
It was only cos I had just shelled out for a new motor and was wary of this that I spotted it next season 1 bolt snapped and the other working its way out

I think its all to easy to gain too much confidence in a rib, they are inherently so comfortable etc you don't realize how much punishment you are putting the hull through and even more so the machinery.
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