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Old 20 December 2006, 12:45   #1
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Hi, I am looking at getting a RIB for general sport use and a bit of cruising. I have been looking at what you can get for around 5K on boatsandoutboards.co.uk and I have found a couple of boats that I like the look of, Both are Ribtec one is 5.6 with twin 40HP yamahas the other is a 5.85 with no engine I think both are about 14 years old but appear to be well looked after.

Are Ribtec a respectable brand? and what are the dangers to look out for when buying a RIB this old?

Also apart from redundancy what are the pros / cons of a twin engine set up on this size of boat, do you get the same performance out of twin 40HP engines as opposed to a single larger engine?

Lots of questions so thanks to any of you that take the time to read!

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Hi - I'd guess you have probably seen this (see link) already (or it has sold) as this is smaller than what you have been looking at but if still for sale, is a very good buy (looking at the spec and pictures) and it has only done 137hrs - I'd offer them something under 5k and see what they say this time of year! ...

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F125404/

Ribtec from what I have seen and heard have a pretty good reputation (I'm sure someone here will be able to give you the full story on them), but I think the most important thing with buying a RIB on a budget is the engine - as new and as reliable as possible is what I went for when I bought my rib (my personal opinion is that a 4stroke would be a big bonus in this price range). Hope this helps.
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Old 20 December 2006, 17:16   #3
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Also apart from redundancy what are the pros / cons of a twin engine set up on this size of boat, do you get the same performance out of twin 40HP engines as opposed to a single larger engine?

Lots of questions so thanks to any of you that take the time to read!

Chris
Apparently (according to some on here) you lose about 30% of the power with twins. I'm looking at a Mac plastic boat at the moment and the supplier advises I'd get similar top speed from twin 60s as from a single 80. So naturally I will be going for a single 115 (max HP rating 120hp)

I would like twins but with modern outboards seemingly being fairly reliable I'm going to stick with a single engine and the 6hp aux I already have. And a radio my other half runs another department of our company that operates 2 launches so a tow home is always an option
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Old 20 December 2006, 20:21   #4
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I know nothing about Ribtecs since they don't seem to exist over here, but before I bought my boat, I spent a lot of time researching the twin vs. single question.

In a nutshell, even the guys that sold the engines advised against twins: higher initial cost, higher ongoing maintenance cost, higher fuel consumption, increased weight for trailering, decreased performance and so on. Then they all added the comment... "unless you really need the safety afforded by redundancy" or words to that effect.

As it turns out, I ended up buying a used boat with a single engine, so the problem sorted itself out.

The thing is though, that if I was buying another boat, I would still consider twins and run the numbers. My reason is exactly the one that the experts pointed out. Over here, I use my boat a long way offshore quite frequently, and I generally can spend an entire day on the water and literally not see another boat until I am within spitting distance of the harbour. Furthermore, on two occassions, I have suffered complete engine meltdowns (i.e. blown cylinder) on a meticulously maintained engine. Only by luck, once I was 100 feet from my home dock, and the second time I was only 2 miles out from my home port and even though it was late at night, I was easily able to secure a tow from a friend. I am always concerned about having a serious breakdown when I am 40 miles out, but so far it hasn't happened!

So all in, if you are using your boat in distant locals, with little chance of rescue, then you should consider twins, assuming the extra cost doesn't kill you. Possibly an auxilary engine might be a middle ground...
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Chris, the 585 without an engine was Jimbos rib now belongs to Tim M and has a 115 Merc on the stern. She was out on the Solent cruise last Saturday. You could try a pm to Tim M to see if he wants to sell either her or his 5.6m Osprey Eagle

The other one with twin 40s (which are manual starts btw, and will keep you fit ) is probably a 5.3m Ribtec and a much smaller boat and will probably measure 5.15 with a tape measure. Those engines will be slow and thirsty.

Tims Osprey, which are tough little boats could be a good buy. Do a search on Ribnet for the pictures of her refurbishment.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F112975/

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Chris, the 585 without an engine was Jimbos rib now belongs to Tim M and has a 115 Merc on the stern. She was out on the Solent cruise last Saturday. You could try a pm to Tim M to see if he wants to sell either her or his 5.6m Osprey Eagle

The other one with twin 40s (which are manual starts btw, and will keep you fit ) is probably a 5.3m Ribtec and a much smaller boat and will probably measure 5.15 with a tape measure. Those engines will be slow and thirsty.

Tims Osprey, which are tough little boats could be a good buy. Do a search on Ribnet for the pictures of her refurbishment.

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F112975/

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Great advert for the Rib, it's full of water!
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Great advert for the Rib, it's full of water!
Always seems to happen with those funny little rib thingies, now a nice cabin sports boat.......

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older ribtecs were made inthe UK (pre 2002) hulls were laminated by TRio mouldings (excellent quality work) and the toobs were made by Henshaws who also know exactly what they are doing!

so at the right price they represent a good buy. I have never seen a ribtec with a wiring job however that was any good so be prepared to rewire them , that's good advice for any used boat really. i personally think that 5k is a lot to pay for a 14 year old boat unless the engine/s is/are a lot newer!

what arethe lumps on the boats and how old are they
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I seem to recall you doing your best to fill your cabin boat with water a few times on it's maiden voyage, usually whenever the wave pattern got complicated!.

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I have had a look at both of those boats on the site and I think the one with twins is a cracker. Yammies are superb 2 strokes and if they have been regularly serrviced they will have years left in them. Take a compression tester with you to find out that the cylinders are OK.

The other RIB Greyhound has had a hard life and ain't worth what is being asked. Boat trailer and broken engine 3.6 k tops. The previous owner Jimbo did some work on Greyhound when he first bought her and he used our facilities and I gave him a hand with a few things so I know the boat quite well.
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