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Old 10 January 2010, 07:16   #11
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c cheers for the reply,i know the weather can change,i go out at whitby,16 mile out deep sea fishing on a fishing boat in north sea ,and that can get pretty rough, i don't think i would do it alone anyway, i did have a bit of confidence but after reading that message i've lost it now. If a 5.2 meter ribs not big enough to do it i dont envy chewy with his sr4 doing the crossing.
The SR4 will be fine lol.
What boat do you have at Whitby?
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Has the guy not said 'the' IOM cruise? Does this not suggest that he's looking to tagalong with the Ribnet organised event? If this is the case, I reckon he's got the right idea. Although, 5.2 is a tad tichy for offshore work IMV.
Well if this is indeed what he meant then it'll be a great oppotunity to take. Would be great if he could buddy up with similar sized craft however.
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Well if this is indeed what he meant then it'll be a great oppotunity to take. Would be great if he could buddy up with similar sized craft however.
Andy - are you suggesting that it is a good idea for someone who has no (significant) previous experience skippering a boat to do a PB2 course then jump on a cruise in company to the Isle of Man, as his first real trip as a new skipper in a new boat.
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Old 10 January 2010, 08:12   #14
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Andy - are you suggesting that it is a good idea for someone who has no (significant) previous experience skippering a boat to do a PB2 course then jump on a cruise in company to the Isle of Man, as his first real trip as a new skipper in a new boat.
It would feat of timing if that were the case. He has a few months in hand to build his experience.
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c cheers for the reply,i know the weather can change,i go out at whitby,16 mile out deep sea fishing on a fishing boat in north sea ,and that can get pretty rough, i don't think i would do it alone anyway, i did have a bit of confidence but after reading that message i've lost it now. If a 5.2 meter ribs not big enough to do it i dont envy chewy with his sr4 doing the crossing.
The idea of my post wasn't to scare you - or strip your confidence - but trust me nothing will strip your confidence like a really scary/unpleasant journey.

I'm not saying 5.2m is too small; but the acceptable weather/sea conditions for a small boat are going to be more restrictive than a large one.

Here are a couple of scenarios for you to think about:

A) You set off from Liverpool and 20 miles out you decide to turn back for some reason (maybe your crew are sea sick, or the weather is getting unpleasant for you but the other more experienced people in possibly bigger boats are happy to press on, etc). Your first ever trip without an instructor holding your hand and you are now 20 miles off shore, on your own, picking your way back through the shipping.

B) You get to the IoM but then your engine starts to play up (or you get towed to the IoM!). Its going to take a day or two to fix the engine. You can probably get a lift back from one of the other boats or fly/ferry or stay on the island (if it wasn't the tt!) - but you then need to retrieve the boat at some point. A 70 nm trip (with an engine you are probably not 100% confident in) and only your second ever trip...

PS Chewy is mental - all Searider owners are - its the fumes from the duck tape adhesive! However although he claims to be 'young', he also has a reasonable amount of experience, and SR's are renowned for their sea-keeping, even then I still suspect he'll have to bail out if the weather is crap sooner than he would in a much larger boat.
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PS Chewy is mental - all Searider owners are - its the fumes from the duck tape adhesive! However although he claims to be 'young', he also has a reasonable amount of experience, and SR's are renowned for their sea-keeping, even then I still suspect he'll have to bail out if the weather is crap sooner than he would in a much larger boat.
I thought I was middle aged, I like you Mr Polwart.
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Hi, im thinking of doing the i o m cruises for my first trip when the time comes,im hoping to get the necasary course,s Rya vHF gps by then,i was thinking of launching from new brighton at wallasay Liverpool ,dose anyone think this is a bit to ambitious for first trip with not much experience of sea.?
Hadd, if you intend launching in the Liverpool area for your first trip/trip.
You may consider driving another 70 miles and launch on Anglesey
There are some decent slipways on the Menai Straits.

Even if it does blow a bit hard there is shelter at one end or tother.
So will get some miles in and experience.

There will be other vessels about too should you have a problem plus you are never more than a few hundred yards from the shore.

Plus you can do a few hours to get confidence in your rig and engine etc.

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Chewy! He's a middle aged RNLI transvestite! But a good lad

There's a few launching from the Morecambe bay area if you fancy it Hadd, inc the right dissociable Chewy
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Chewy! He's a middle aged RNLI transvestite!
You still would though!
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