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Old 14 October 2013, 14:08   #1
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Fire extinguisher - what do I need ?

How big an extinguisher do I need ?

(8.5m Hysucat with twin 175 outboards)

Actually, why do I need one anyway ?
Just how will my RIB catch fire ?
Has anyone ever needed one ?

I imagine its only chance will be electrical, so that will be in the console where all the wiring is, or at the rear, where the two batterys are - right next to the fuel lines to the two outboards.

So just where do I mount the extingisher then ?
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Old 14 October 2013, 14:12   #2
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Forgive me, I appreciate your keen to spec your new purchase out to suit you but do you not think these are questions you should have considered and asked the seller before committing, spending the kind of money you have id have expected bits like this to b in place already. Its often the way that when you sit and and add up all that you've needed and fitted after purchase you start to regret jumping in.

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Old 14 October 2013, 14:53   #3
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OK, I wont ask any more questions then.
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Old 14 October 2013, 15:04   #4
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OK, I wont ask any more questions then.
Ignore him...( secretly we all wish we had your boat - some of us are just better at hiding it...jealousy ..its an ugly emotion ! )

Fire at sea...the one thing I'll be doing is getting off my boat.

I have an extinguisher on my boat - its small powder one ...whatever you get if you have to use it it'll be a bad bad day....

CO2 is fairly useless as is foam on a boat ( IMHO) ....others will know more...
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is it just me or is anyone else sick of hearing bout this med bound hussycat with twin motors and no extras I don't mean to be rude but whenever I log on theres a topic on hussycat you should have asked the dealer for all the bits considering how much you shelled out
yes its just you!!!!!

My point was a simple question, I was not slating the OP, if you don't like whet you see bugger off somewhere else!

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Actually, why do I need one anyway ? Seriously?
Just how will my RIB catch fire ?
Has anyone ever needed one ?

I imagine its only chance will be electrical, so that will be in the console where all the wiring is, or at the rear, where the two batterys are - right next to the fuel lines to the two outboards.
You kinda answered your own question there dude, which might explain some of the irritation from the Odd Individual (as we'll call him from now on )

CO2 - good for under cowl fuel/electrical fires and in console fires if you have a fire port fitted. For general "on deck" fires, a 1kg powder is ideal. They're VERY effective - I've used them in anger on land.
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bit strong Mr Chopz maybe Trimix got the best deal he could and decided that rather than pay the dealer a shed load of money for all the goodies to be fitted he would like to get some pleasure out of fitting out his rib himself with good kit recommended by other users, or is it just me i made the mistake of letting a dealer fit our rib out with vhf, chartplotter etc, ended up with 2nd rate kit poorly fitted and badly wired up, won't make that mistake again

Trimix, pm me anytime you want, I'm happy to help where i can
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is it just me or is anyone else sick of hearing bout this med bound hussycat with twin motors and no extras I don't mean to be rude but whenever I log on theres a topic on hussycat you should have asked the dealer for all the bits considering how much you shelled out
Compared to a lot of the crap that gets talked about on here these questions all seem reasonably relevant! Personally I'm not convinced a dealer is the best person to advise you on this stuff, although I am surprised a few of the things weren't included on a boat that was out giving live demos at a boat show!

Dealers are primarily interested in the sale / their margin. So whilst some might "chuck in" extras to close a sale any freeby will often be the cheapest to tick a box (rather than the best / most appropriate). If its an opportunity to upsell extras the opposite can happen and you are sold things which really aren't that relevant. If you are going to run a RIB this size then a few accessories isn't going to break the bank - but I would have hoped a good Powerboat Instructor would have covered the essentials on a PB2 course.

Of course Trimix might want to use the Search tool as most topics have been discussed before. There he would probably have concluded: electrics can start fires; petrol burns rather well and fibreglass and hypalon aren't exactly Nomex either; and whilst rare, some unfortunate people have had outboard fires. He'd also have found others recommending dry powder extinguishers which whilst very messy are probably the most appropriate, although a fire blanket would not be pointless in some fires.
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Cheers for the replys.

I am enjoying the research and fitting it out exactly as I want. I didnt want one completely sorted by someone else to their budget.

But Im also aware that I have no experience, so its really helpfull to get other opinions.
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Fire is very rare in ribs but does happen.

I have seen an outboard fire occur on the first launch after a winter layup, which set the entire back end of the rib on fire. Not a pretty site.

Just be careful with petrol vapours when filling from portable tanks. Keep an extinguisher to hand just in case. If you spill some wash down with plenty of water quickly.

Dry powder extinguishers are what you need but once fired off you only get a short blast. Best to have 2 in separate locations on a larger boat if you can. Don't keep the locker locked if you store it away (sounds obvious). Think where a fire could break out and don't put your extinguisher there.

If a small fire is not tackled quickly the residual heat could restart it after you have discharged an extinguisher at it, so you may need another shortly after.

For an electric fire you also need to isolate the electric supply if something had shorted sufficient to cause a fire, so a battery isolator is ideally needed too.

If you are at sea and have a fire then you need the hand held VHF (if main out of action ) to hand to alert coastguard ASAP.

RYA courses, VHF course and RNLI are probably worth your while exploring for education and advice.

Hope this helps
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