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Old 09 July 2014, 05:59   #21
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Cheers guys. Having been in the Royal Navy for 22 years I know all about fires at sea, so can see both sides of your arguments. I've had ships that never suffer a fire, and ships that have two or three in a week for various reasons! I guess it's the luck of the draw, but I'd rather have an extinguisher that I don't need than not have one that I do.

I will be getting an extinguisher (or two x 1kg), but I wasn't sure which type/where best to mount for a RIB. I'm quite well versed in giving the occasional WD40 squirt to anything metallic!

Those plastic ones seem a reasonable alternative to the metal ones though.
As an RN guy you'll be familiar with the SR5.4 and the position of the extinguisher pocket which, as far as I'm concerned, is ideally located.

I recently re-furbed mine and can tell you that the cost of the new pocket to house the 1Kg powder extinguisher (metal canister) on the back of the rear seat (very quickly accessed in an emergency) was approximately three times the price of the extinguisher...

Or, to put it another way, the extinguisher cost just a tad more than two packs of Marlboro so in the great scheme of things, I'm happy to renew it each season, if required.

Of course, as a smoker, I appreciate the reassurance of having it readily available between my position at the helm and the tanks...

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Old 09 July 2014, 06:19   #22
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Haha, fair one!

I don't have a seat like that, but I'm sure I could come up with something to suit.
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Old 09 July 2014, 09:57   #24
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Fire extinguisher question.

Just as a matter of interest wonder how many fires theres actually been on outboard powered ribs or sibs in use on the water & whats the biggest cause ,
Electrical,
Fuel,
Flares / pyrotecnics
Carelessness Smoking

Not including onshore storage , vandalism .
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fitting it to be back of a pod seat is a good spot.
There would be some sense to that. It would be easily accessible, and highly visible so everyone knows where it is in a rush. More to the point gradual corrosion will be more noticeable, out of sight out of mind. Mine is at the bottom of a (damp) locker and probably not in great shape... ...I really must give it a check.

There are downsides in it being a bit more exposed, and more nick-able from storage.

I've used a 2kg extinguisher on a fuel fire (not on a boat) - if there is a fire that big I don't want to be on a RIB with it.
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Ive been giving extinguishers a thought.

I was going to get one plumbed in, automatic detection. Going into the console where the electrical connections are and the fuel filler pipes, as I figured that would be a good place for a fire to start.

But after a bit of research and chat at the boat show the suppliers said they are set off by heat, so an electrical fire would have to take hold before it goes off. Being right next to the fuel fillers I reckon the whole thing will go up before it goes off, or before I notice.

I also considered the gas version so it didnt make a mess of the electrics. But the supplier said if he was on a RIB that caught fire he would just jump off !

So I went for a small 2kg hand held and plan to mount it low down on the outside of the main console. Easy access, removable when stowing the boat.

I also figured if it catches fire Im going to jump off rather than try to put out the flames.
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Those plastic ones seem a reasonable alternative to the metal ones though.
Definitely interesting for any boat
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Brilliant

Actually, shouldnt there be one of those Muster signs as well ?
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But after a bit of research and chat at the boat show the suppliers said they are set off by heat, so an electrical fire would have to take hold before it goes off. Being right next to the fuel fillers I reckon the whole thing will go up before it goes off, or before I notice.
were you looking at the versions with a trace of tubing to get into hard to reach areas?

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I also considered the gas version so it didnt make a mess of the electrics. But the supplier said if he was on a RIB that caught fire he would just jump off !
did he understand the size (and value) of your rib... it would be a shame to jump overboard and sacrifice a rib for a bit of overheated wiring!

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I also figured if it catches fire Im going to jump off rather than try to put out the flames.
It was pointed out on my PB2 course that there is a giant extinguisher all round us and a jumper dunked in the sea and wrung out will smother a lot of small boat fires if you cut off the source (fuel supply / battery shut down).
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