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Old 15 January 2008, 10:23   #31
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"No

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..... although it might be prudent if you were on your own, at night and/or in bad weather!

I would suggest that it should depend on the circumstances.
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In my opinion there is absolutely no need to file a passage plan for any trip in the Solent. By all means let someone ashore know where you're going and when you expect to be there, but channels 16 and 67 are busy enough as it is without people adding to the traffic with pointless passage plan information.

If the circumstances were such that I ever felt it necessary to file a passage plan with the coast guard for either journey suggested by Peter J, I would go to the pub instead.

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Old 15 January 2008, 12:06   #33
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In my opinion there is absolutely no need to file a passage plan for any trip in the Solent. By all means let someone ashore know where you're going and when you expect to be there, but channels 16 and 67 are busy enough as it is without people adding to the traffic with pointless passage plan information.

If the circumstances were such that I ever felt it necessary to file a passage plan with the coast guard for either journey suggested by Peter J, I would go to the pub instead.

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I tend to agree with you - although presumably the aim of going to Folly is the pub in any event - there being little else there!

My point was rather that one should never say never
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I had to update my CG66 (which involved it changing where it is stored), and got a nice email back from the CG, including an invite to visit the MRCC - I followed this up with an enquiry to them asking their views on filing passage plans. The following is a quote from the email which they said I could post here. It may be different in the busy waters of the south coast.
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From a safety point of view we (the coastguard at Clyde) are happy for you to leave a passage plan each trip, should anything untoward happen at the very least we would have a starting point to begin a search plan, all we do is log your information in our working log.

If at the end of your passage you forget to tell us you have arrived we do not take any action - unless someone reports you overdue

Ideally the passage plan will contain a departure point and time, an arrival point and time and any deviation from a straight line course. For example 'Departing Largs Marina for Kip Marina via the Kyles of Bute ETA Kip 1700 Hours, 2 persons onboard.

If you have a CG66 it would also be usefull to say in your passage plan 'CG66 held at Clyde' or whichever station holds your CG66.
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If at the end of your passage you forget to tell us you have arrived we do not take any action - unless someone reports you overdue
I suppose it's a little bit useful should things go horribly wrong but that makes there little point in informing them. I don't usually know where I'm going until I get to the sea and see the conditions. So telling a shore contact at that time as well as the CG who are not going to act until the shore contact tells them, seems a waste of time.
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I suppose it's a little bit useful should things go horribly wrong but that makes there little point in informing them. I don't usually know where I'm going until I get to the sea and see the conditions. So telling a shore contact at that time as well as the CG who are not going to act until the shore contact tells them, seems a waste of time.
But I suppose this way you can just tell your shore contact you are off to the boat and will be back by 6pm (or whenever) and then leave the detail to the CG.
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I suppose it's a little bit useful should things go horribly wrong but that makes there little point in informing them. I don't usually know where I'm going until I get to the sea and see the conditions. So telling a shore contact at that time as well as the CG who are not going to act until the shore contact tells them, seems a waste of time.
The passage plan is very useful once the vessel is reported overdue as all resources can be concentrated in more or less the right place.

When a vessel overdue report comes in, the CG will probably start with a radio search, asking all ships to look out for the boat in question, ('information is requested' etc.). Often, that's all that's necessary and the lost boat is found. Failing that, more and more resources are called in, gradually ending up with a full search. Before that time though, so many people know about the search that, even in this wild and isolated area full of nooks and crannies, the lost vessel is either found, or sighting position reports received which may narrow the search area.

I let my shore contact know the general area - Firth of Lorne, Snd of Jura, Snd of Mull, etc., - and the day and time I expect to return or make contact. If I'm going to be away longer than anticipated, or move areas and the mobile has no signal (more often than not around here) I let the CG know where I'm anchored for the night, and say they may get a call re my whereabouts. They seem happy with that.
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With out the shore contact you're fekked, though.
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With out the shore contact you're fekked, though.
Ah! But that's what the red button on your DSC VHF is for. Or your hand held VHF. Or your red flares. Or your EPIRB. Or your PLB.

Or a whistle, gun (loud bang), burning tar barrel, NC flags (I think), waving arms, upside down ensign! Oh! Yes. And your mobile phone - you did listen to Codprawn, didn't you, and wrap it in three plastic freezer bags?

No? No VHF? What's an EPIRB, PLB? Flares? What, those soggy things in the container full of water?

Well. Yes. You're fekked.
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I personally will only file a passage plan with the CG if I feel the risk and necessity for a quick rescue are higher than normal.

While working commercially this includes activities at night or long passages. When Iím out for pleasure it generally includes solo night passages, especially in rougher conditions and longer than normal passages, i.e. channel crossings.

I will always have a shore contact aware Iím out on the boat.

I have been called on VHF by Portland Coastguard after a solo night passage from Cowes to Poole in nasty weather. It took me an hour longer than expected and they called me 30mins after my original est arrival time.
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