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Old 11 January 2008, 07:34   #11
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We are at cross-purposes. You are NOT entrusting them to hit the panic button. Your wife will do that.

However, by filing your passage plan with CG at the start of the trip - when your (very upset) wife calls in to the Ops Room, about all she will have to get accurate is your name and/or your boat name. They will have the rest and then the balloon will go up very quickly with all the details recorded from your passage plan.

This is much better than some poor person in the Ops Room having to get all of these details from a wife who - in some cases - could be so upset that about all they could do would be to give your full name.

Does this clarify??
I think that is precisely the reason not to leave it with someone who is likely to panic - wife may not always be the right person (although I think mine would be relatively calm - she would probably ask the coasties how long I have to be gone before she can claim the insurance!). Similarly my mother would probably delay an hour before calling the CG (no matter what she was briefed) - because "I didn't want to disturb them".

Surely its just a case of filing by ETA and ticking off when people report back in. If someone is overdue - knowing their exact destination is not critical to initiating enquiries - although if the information is vague (e.g. hamble) I accept that it might be difficult to trace a boat.
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Old 11 January 2008, 07:34   #12
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I always advise the coastguard when we're afloat. Where launched, where heading, how many aboard, when due ashore, and I advise anyone I'm training to do the same. I don't expect the CG( to panic if I'm not in on time or if I don't call when I've told them I'll be ashore (plans change, occasionally I forget!). I do expect them to have the details that will help SAR services find me if I do need them to react when my wife or maybe even someone who doesn't stand to benefit from the insurance) reports me missing.

On a trip from the south coast to the Clyde last year, when I called Clyde to report safe arrival they had access to my details and knew who we were etc .... the system works for me.
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Old 11 January 2008, 07:43   #13
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I have filed passage plans with the CG as i leave the solent
say to go to Jersey, This they tell me helps them with there monitoring of the shipping lanes as on radar a rib is a fast moving object that could be carrying
something they should ant . But i tell my wife or my dad what time i should be there
give or take a couple of hours, just remember to tell CG that you have completed your trip.
This year i am going to invest in a Eperb hope to god i will never have to use it but should give me and any passengers a comfort zone
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I guess location has something to do with the need to inform the CG. As I live and RIB in the Solent Area I know that I as relitivley covered with regard who I contact. There is always a lifeboat station within easy range and even well covered with the Helecopter. To add to this, you are rarely alone in the Solent.

If I where to cruise somewhere I wasn't familiar with or was remote then contacting the CG would be a good Idea.

But I would still leave details with family or friends.
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Quote from Solas V regs:

"If you are involved in a boating accident and it is subsequently shown that you have not applied the basic principles outlined in this leaflet, you could be prosecuted." If you don't have the leaflet, read it/download it from http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/solas.pdf

Reporting passage info to CG would certainly help your case if the worst did happen. It's different in Scotland. The CH here welcomes calls, I get the impression when I'm down on the South coast that the situation is rather different.
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I was once a coastguard, and it surprised me when I joined to know that they do NOT actually check up that you arrived. The reason is simply one of logistics.

Firstly they dont have time to do this -
In the Forth area, if you call, you need to give them time to wake up , it's not the busiest of places most of the time.
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and all too often the destination is something like (as an instance) "Portsmouth" or "River Hamble". They have absolutely no way of knowing which of the marinas or anchorages you may be heading for.
Of course they have, they can ask.

Just a wee addition which I should have included with my first post. On one occasion I called them from the Isle of May before my trip home cos the wind was kicking up and I was on my own. A few minutes later they called to tell me to be sure I let them know when I arrived back. So they do seem to be looking out for you, at least, in this area.
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Agree. Forth Coastguard are great. Well worth a trip to Fife Ness to have a look around if you get the chance
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I guess location has something to do with the need to inform the CG.
This thread has triggered the mind to update our CG66. If anyone else needs to then the link is:

https://mcanet.mcga.gov.uk/public/cg66/

The login is likely to be your e mail address and there is even a password reset button because you will have forgotten it since you last registered. If you need to cancel then the phone numbers in the help section will get you through to your local CG who have to manually cancel a CG66.

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I have filed passage plans with the CG as i leave the solent
say to go to Jersey, This they tell me helps them with there monitoring of the shipping lanes as on radar a rib is a fast moving object that could be carrying
something they should ant . But i tell my wife or my dad what time i should be there
give or take a couple of hours, just remember to tell CG that you have completed your trip.
This year i am going to invest in a Eperb hope to god i will never have to use it but should give me and any passengers a comfort zone
Considering we are always being told that small boats are very hard to spot on radar I wonder if this is really the case. I brought my boat back from Guernsey(minus refelctor) with no interference at all. I then phoned the national yacht line before stepping ashore and they just didn't want to know - wouldn't even take my name and address to show that I had phoned. I then had to chase THEM to pay the VAT!!!

I know NautiBuoy had all sorts of fun with customs etc but we can over on a nice sunny evening when there were loads of boats around. Of course no drug smugglers would EVER think of that..............
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Considering we are always being told that small boats are very hard to spot on radar I wonder if this is really the case.
Deffinately not the case. The Royal Artillery RADAR at Manorbier, Pembroke tracked two ribs all the way across the Bristol Channel for 45 miles, even recording the time we turned to enter the harbour at Barnstaple. This was before the days we started carrying RADAR reflectors.

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