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Old 31 May 2007, 12:56   #11
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Don't go near any glue ever again - please!!!

Looks great - usual Tilley craftsmanship.

Just one question - as they seem to be quite large why didn't you get them made a bit longer with a rounded bit at the front to join them together???
The answer to the question in your 3rd paragraph lies with the fact I want to go along with the advice in your 1st paragraph

Briefly though:

1) I hate gluing and never want to do any again. It is a fiddly, irritating and frustrating job, I have no patience with fiddly, irritating and frustrating jobs and I know when it is best to leave it to somebody who knows what they are doing!

2) There is nobody here who is likely to be any better at retubing than I am (which is bad news, see 1) for some of the reasons)

3) I have nowhere I can fit a whole boat under cover and heated to the optimum temperature for the glue to cure and it is too cold for most of the year to think about doing it outside - global warming is a myth and only exists in the northern hemisphere!!

4) If I tear all the old tubes off the boat and then can't fix it then I am really b&ggered and the whole thing would be scrap value only.

5) A new set of tubes was cheaper than I expected but still 3x the cost of the sausages

6) This has other advantages in being able to remove them from the boat and repair them indoors, as well as being stronger (probably) - double thickness of fabric = built in wear patch right where it matters

The sausages only do the aft chambers so less than half the length of the boat - they are about 1.75m long.

If I ever bought another RIB I'd give serious consideration to something that had removable tubes that can be changed out as a DIY job but I think only Zodiac offer that and they are expensive and not really what I want. I just wish Osprey made a Vipermax with removable tubes because then the decision would be easy! But for now this should keep me in the water for a good while I hope - in another 12 to 18 months I might be in a position to think about a new boat again.
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Old 31 May 2007, 13:11   #12
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Yes I see what you mean.

I am useless at anything "free hand" or creative. I love working on lathes and engines etc but I detest anything that has to be made to fit. i will happily take apart a gearbox and yet a door trim panel or a headlining makes my blood boil - they just aren't engineered!!!

I should imagine if I went anywhere near my RIB with glue I would get most of it over me. I would then end up with the world's first hairy RIB..........
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Old 31 May 2007, 23:01   #13
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Yes I see what you mean.

I am useless at anything "free hand" or creative. I love working on lathes and engines etc but I detest anything that has to be made to fit. i will happily take apart a gearbox and yet a door trim panel or a headlining makes my blood boil - they just aren't engineered!!!

I should imagine if I went anywhere near my RIB with glue I would get most of it over me. I would then end up with the world's first hairy RIB..........
Cod... does your post then suggest that Welshman most probably have genetic characteristics (hairy) of Neanderthal? This of course would necessarily guarantee that you are actually part "Yank!"
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Hairy RIBs??? Hairy Yanks???


This guy might be a Yank, though more likley a REB, yet certainly has no RIBs that can be seen.

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Looks like he has left most of his hair on his RIB......
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Nice one Stephen

Just to echo everyone else's sentiments. Good to see your boat back on the water - new you'd be pleased with Paul's workmanship

Hopefully you won't have too much of a problem with the other side, but good to know that you have a spare. As to the flappy end is is possible to make some small (say 1") long cuts into the fabric at regular intervals around the open end to allow it to overlap and hence lay flat (rather than wrinkle up). Then you could use some Sikaflex to bond the end flaps onto the sausage. This would also act as a deterrent to stop the sausage from falling out the end.

Hope I've explained what I mean well enough !

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Old 02 June 2007, 12:05   #17
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Hopefully you won't have too much of a problem with the other side, but good to know that you have a spare. As to the flappy end is is possible to make some small (say 1") long cuts into the fabric at regular intervals around the open end to allow it to overlap and hence lay flat (rather than wrinkle up). Then you could use some Sikaflex to bond the end flaps onto the sausage. This would also act as a deterrent to stop the sausage from falling out the end.

Hope I've explained what I mean well enough !

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I think it will fail exactly the same on the other side in due course as the seam on the other side shows slight signs of distress - the cause of the failure was down to the design and construction of the seam (it was untaped on the inside and looks like it started lifting from the inside first, some time ago) and some sort of problem with material delamination so it seems probable that it will affect that side too. But I'm prepared now and can fix it in half an afternoon so it doesn't really matter

After a good beating in some choppy water the sausage shows no signs of any movement. I actually got the idea from somebody else here who did something similar with an old rib a few years ago and he has never had any problems since.

I see what you mean about the end and that is one idea I may consider in due course - thanks
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Old 03 June 2007, 06:56   #18
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I should imagine if I went anywhere near my RIB with glue I would get most of it over me. I would then end up with the world's first hairy RIB......- codders

I knew it.You were useless at Chemistry when you were a kid. Chemistry is the fundamental science that EVERYTHING revolves around.

Stephen congrats on the rib job.

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I knew it.You were useless at Chemistry when you were a kid. Chemistry is the fundamental science that EVERYTHING revolves around.
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