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Old 19 August 2011, 13:05   #11
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It's obviously a fake, look how nicely that hatch has been finished
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Old 19 August 2011, 13:05   #12
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Fekin lol... .... And not so funny really .. some people are just muppets and ill informed ? still .. it could have been another Vibromax


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Old 19 August 2011, 13:13   #13
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Originally Posted by Courageous
"CON TROLLS" says it all really!

Says he has it advertised on boats and outboards too - they are very good at removing adverts that are false or scams.

There was an issue on there around 6 months ago with a pseudo Osprey by the name of "Time thief". I was speaking with Roy at Mannings Marine and he told me it was not an osprey and took on the issue from there.
I actually listed that "Osprey" at the time having bought it from Boatshed Bristol where it was sold to me as being an osprey hard nose with official bill of sales from past purchases all showing the same. Apparently it was also coded at one point with the same being advised.

The listing actually suggested that it was believed to be an osprey but not confirmed. Roy did get in touch and I made potential buyers aware of the confusion.

For the record though I disagree that the site are good to remove scams. It's full of them. I can give 15 examples of fake listings (where no item is actually in hand to sell). One of my own boats is currently being scammed on the site at the moment. A Ranieri revolution priced at 5995 - they've scammed the original eBay listing and pictures I bought it from (for 5k) and priced it up stupidly low at 3,800. The problem is some numpty will fall for it and lose their money - plus it's ruined my chances to sell it as people think I'm scamming or asking well over the odds for it. Do the website owners give a Monkeys ? Yeah right!

For the record im Boatsandoutboards4sale and nothing to do with the site - my ID is what it is as that's the max letters available and as close as I can get to my business name

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Old 19 August 2011, 13:13   #14
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7 View Post
still .. it could have been another Vibromax

It's quite a common ploy these days. I've seen three fake Redbays for sale over here in the last two years. HQ don't seem to get too stressed about it.
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Old 19 August 2011, 13:35   #15
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Peter I know you ended up selling that boat, I recognise your video's as they are very thorough and your voice very recognisable. I opted out of "time thief" prior to your getting hold of it ( I guess you were selling her on a commission basis for the owner who refused to accept that it was not an osprey). I was actually very disappointed when Roy told me as I had to have something that had traceable history and she certainly was a fast boat at a good price!

I also agree boats and outboards are not pro-active at spotting the scams, they rely on being told by busy bodies like me but I have to step in and do all I can to slow down the scammers progress. What B&O do though is react promptly when you have brought it to their attention IMHO.
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Old 19 August 2011, 13:43   #16
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As with most of my boats I buy them in full then re-sell. I bought it off him via boat shed.

I've reported the scam on my boat but it's still live....

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