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Old 13 January 2003, 11:41   #11
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Paint!!

The matter of painting the boat has come up. We did some paint jobs on a Zodiac and a Sinlger I use to have before. Looked ok but the paint started flaking off and needed painting every so often (NEVER AGAIN). May be it was the heat and may be in the UK with lower temperatures it shouldn't happen who knows.
Trial and error will show.

Re the fading hypalon it must be the quality. Is it under guarantee?? According to tube experts it should not fade is such a short time no matter if you left it out exposed or not. ORCA Hypalon products don't start fading before the lapse of 15 years.
You should complain to the manufacturers.
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Old 13 January 2003, 13:34   #12
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Hypalon fabric

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Can I suggest that you give me a call during office hours at the number below, and I will arrange to have one of our staff look at the tubes next time they are in the area.

The tube will have been made from the best quality Hypalon coated fabric that money can buy, and not any inferior fabric. The fabric and air tight seams carry a five year warranty anyway, so don't worry about it.

Orca fabric is actually a brand name of Pennel Industries whereas the fabric used on your boat will, have probably been Aerazur fabric, that we have mostly used in preference for 31 years. It has a very slight thicker coating of Hypalon rubber calendered onto the surface, and offers better abrasion resistance.However both Aerazur and Orca are distributed by the same company, Pennel.

There was mention on this thread about using Silicone. Never use Silicone on Hypalon as it will cause problems if you ever have to carry out a tube repair

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Old 13 January 2003, 13:40   #13
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Re: Hypalon fabric

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There was mention on this thread about using Silicone. Never use Silicone on Hypalon as it will cause problems if you ever have to carry out a tube repair
Just to say that I have used silicon based sprays on a 5 mtr GEMINI that I had for 15 years. NEVER HAD A PROBLEM with tube repairs. It all stuck properly.
If you rub both surfaces and clean them before gluing then there is no problem (so thye experts say).
Any way silicon does not stay for long on the fabric (a few days the most) after you put it in the water.
Just talking from experience
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Old 13 January 2003, 17:00   #14
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What colour is the Hyperlon.

I belive that some colours fade quicker than others.

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Old 14 January 2003, 06:08   #15
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On the note of silicon. Car wax is often silicon based and when used on the hull of a boat can repel gel coat filler at a later date. If you look at a specific boat cleaner the almost never have silicon in them.

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Old 14 January 2003, 14:41   #16
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I am not as religious as I should be about the cover and it has been uncoverd now for a few weeks (I am a bad man!). But even so I winged to the missus about and when I came home today she had given it a go with some soapy water and a sponge and I have to say it looks much better (not telling her that though). I don't think the fading is anywhere near as bad as I first thought, in fact I think the light made it look much worse than I imagined. I have since decided that when the weather improves I will give te old girl some TLC and try whichever cleaner/polish that you boys on this forum recommend.

I must also say that this is no way a dig at Henshaws, whose workmanship I can only desribe as top notch and I have absolutely no reservations what so ever about recommending them to anyone for all RIB collar work!!!
Thankyou Mr Hornidge!

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it's alpine blue in colour, garygee.(see below).
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Old 14 January 2003, 15:20   #17
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I'm very pleased that my suggested remedy worked!!
Didn't have any doubts that it wouldn't any way.
After you finish washing the boat and you dry it well, wet a cloth first with some warm water, then spray liberally small sections on the baot at each one time with ARMORALL (not the mat but the shining version) polishing agent use the wet cloth to rub it in. Wait until is dry and for the REAL shining effect get a dry cloth wipe it and you will not believe your eyes!!
As I said the effect will last for a few days (4-7) the most if you have the boat continually in the water. Otherwise it will last a bit longer. You also see that ARMOL acts as water repelant on the plastic.
If you try this let us know what you think!!
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Old 14 January 2003, 15:26   #18
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Jizm

Just forgot. To see how the boat would look like have a look at this thread I posted a few days back

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1490

Does that boat look like a 15 year old boat to you??
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