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Old 21 March 2019, 04:02   #1
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Faded tubes - options?

Hi all, know this has been discussed to a degree in different discussions but interested to hear your thoughts on my tubes.

They are faded, now 14 years old, but hold air perfectly and otherwise as robust as the day we bought the RIB.

I have tried products to restore the colour, havenít made a vast difference. At some point I will probably look to replace them though seems silly to replace just for cosmetic reasons at £5-6k probably.

Once Iíve exhausted all restoration methods what are the other reasonable and sensible options for extending their use. Having them painted? There is much doubt over the merits of painting given it might look ok for a couple of years - but how long does painting last before they look awful? Presumably once they start to deteriorate your committed to topping up the paint or replacing again. I donít know how old tube paint wears - cracking or peeling?

Or is it an option rather than retube to have the fender strip removed and handles and a layer of new hypalon glued on top before replacing handles etc? Havenít seen that done before but presumably itís an option - not sure how price would compare to a full retube.

Is there a market for second hand perfectly functioning tubes? I wonder if I can help offset the cost of new tubes by selling the current ones?

Wonít be able to do it this year anyway as sinking enough funds to get the rest of the boat ship shape but maybe next year. Interested to hear your thoughts...

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Give them a good going over with TFR, not the namby pamby Eco paint friendly stuff, you want the full on caustic truck wash. Rinse well, dry & then 303 protectant.
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PD would SurfexHD be any good? Used 200:1 as a degreaser (TFR is 100:1) it also removes organic material from car soft tops. Could be used neat like you said for the TFR.

Personally the caustic TFR worries me a little, how could it be used on a boat sitting on a galvanized trailer? Suppose could use sparingly and wipe off before washing down..?

Incidentally I think I found a great price on the 303 protectant for the 946ml size (16 fl/ounce) of £25 from http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk
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I pour some TFR into a plastic sink bowl, wash off the boat with the hose pipe & get it wet, clean the tubes with a sponge & neat TFR, rinse with the hose as you go, donít let it dry on the tubes. If you rinse the trailer as you go, no problem. Let it dry & hit it with the 303.
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Like PD says I'd stick with cleaning and preserving best you can. I'd rather see faded tubes than painted tubes for me painting tubes is a last ditch effort before the stanley knife comes out to replace them.I would value a boat with faded tubes higher than a boat with painted tubes.
I doubt there is much value in them once removed as there is considerable labour involved in fitting to another hull.
If the tubes are good and just faded you may be better off selling complete hull & maybe consider looking at a new stock boat, humber were selling some very cheap boats over this winter
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Like PD says I'd stick with cleaning and preserving best you can. I'd rather see faded tubes than painted tubes for me painting tubes is a last ditch effort before the stanley knife comes out to replace them.I would value a boat with faded tubes higher than a boat with painted tubes.
I doubt there is much value in them once removed as there is considerable labour involved in fitting to another hull.
If the tubes are good and just faded you may be better off selling complete hull & maybe consider looking at a new stock boat, humber were selling some very cheap boats over this winter


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Wot he said I wouldnít buy a boat with painted tubes. They are usually painted for a reason; knackered.
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Yeah agree, would see painting as a last ditch knowing that once they look bad again itís goodbye to those tubes, just havenít seen any photos of painted tubes as they age to know what the wearing is like. Only thing is rest of the boat is perfectly fine so still cheaper to replace tubes When the time comes - i.e no point me selling and buying a newer version of the same boat. Donít intend selling for quite a while which helps.

If I can afford it in 5-10 years though a nice 8m craft would be nice! 10m even better but then youíre talking much more money.

So I reckon best thing is to try cleaning them still then when needed just buy new tubes ...

From what you can see from the photos the sun damage, is that just contaminants that should clean off or actual bleaching of the pigment? Just wondering if there is hope that the TFR would have a chance of returning a solid consistent colour to the tubes. PD have you used that to good effect before with sun damage?

Thanks for your input on this post guys!
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Tfr ?


Traffic Film Remover, the chemical used in pressure washers.
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Yeah agree, would see painting as a last ditch knowing that once they look bad again itís goodbye to those tubes, just havenít seen any photos of painted tubes as they age to know what the wearing is like. Only thing is rest of the boat is perfectly fine so still cheaper to replace tubes When the time comes - i.e no point me selling and buying a newer version of the same boat. Donít intend selling for quite a while which helps.

If I can afford it in 5-10 years though a nice 8m craft would be nice! 10m even better but then youíre talking much more money.

So I reckon best thing is to try cleaning them still then when needed just buy new tubes ...

From what you can see from the photos the sun damage, is that just contaminants that should clean off or actual bleaching of the pigment? Just wondering if there is hope that the TFR would have a chance of returning a solid consistent colour to the tubes. PD have you used that to good effect before with sun damage?

Thanks for your input on this post guys!


The TFR will remove the embedded grime, the 303 brings up the colour.
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