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Old 08 February 2017, 04:26   #11
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Silly question, but if it's your boat & you are moving there, why would duty be payable, is it not just another "possession" if you ship out your bed, furniture, jewellery do you have to pay duty on those too? Are boats a special case? I would have thought that duty would only become due if you sold it in the states. If you paid duty & then moved back to the UK, do you claim the duty back when you export it again?
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Old 08 February 2017, 04:53   #12
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agreed PD...seems like it would fall under the same category
as your other personal effects, but the notes that I got sent by limeydal
do show that a boat being imported for private use has a duty
rate of 1% for powerboats or 2.4% for inflatable boats.
As I understand it - you can bring in personal effects (if your moving there)
without duty being payable as long as they are over 1 year old.

Just out of interest I looked up importing a USA boat for private use
into the UK and the import duty would be 1.7% plus 20% VAT
on the value of the boat - so for a 6000 pound value boat,
it would be 102 pounds duty and 1220.40 pounds in VAT.

Seems like neither USA or UK consider a recreational boat a personal effect.
At least I don't have to pay VAT importing into the USA.
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Old 08 February 2017, 05:08   #13
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Can you claim the VAT back on it if you are exporting it to the states?
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Old 08 February 2017, 05:20   #14
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Can you claim the VAT back on it if you are exporting it to the states?
I guess you would need the original bill of sale (which I don't have).
But not sure of the situation if the boat has been used in the UK
for a lengthy period of time, as opposed to being new.
Moot point as I must be the third or fourth owner and the original paperwork
is long gone. I bought it from a private individual so no VAT Charged
on the sale to me that I could reclaim.
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does lead onto some more practical details I suppose.
I wouldn't get the trailer into a 20' sea container I expect,
will be too long with the draw bar etc. and not sure it would be legal in the USA.
I think I would need a wheeled cradle, flog the Rollercoaster in the UK
and use the money pick up a trailer over in the US.
Would have to deflate tubes to fit the boat inside the container,
purge the under deck fuel tank. Everything else on the boat should be OK.
The VHF doesn't share the exact same channels I believe?
But the AIS and plotter (with appropriate charts loaded) should all work fine.
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does lead onto some more practical details I suppose.

I wouldn't get the trailer into a 20' sea container I expect,

will be too long with the draw bar etc. and not sure it would be legal in the USA.

I think I would need a wheeled cradle, flog the Rollercoaster in the UK

and use the money pick up a trailer over in the US.

Would have to deflate tubes to fit the boat inside the container,

purge the under deck fuel tank. Everything else on the boat should be OK.

The VHF doesn't share the exact same channels I believe?

But the AIS and plotter (with appropriate charts loaded) should all work fine.


Can you keep the boat as a U.K. Registered vessel? My mate has a yacht in Mexico that he bought from an American & it is now British registered. You would be able to keep your mmsi number, otherwise you might have issues with the AIS /VHF. Your vhf will probably have the facility to switch to US channels.
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I think its normally a year up to a maximum of three years if its a yacht?
Not really sure - maybe someone on here knows.
I am sure its also linked in to your own immigration status as well.
If your a permanent resident, I am pretty sure you would need a
permit from the DMV and a registration number to operate it.
Your UK boat insurance would need adjusting, or not be valid.
And to get the boat to the USA - as its not a yacht and can't be sailed,
so am sure to send it over in a container - would require some
sort of pre-clearance in the USA before departure from the UK.
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Are you emigrating lock stock & barrel or is it a temp thing?
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lock stock and two smoking barrels
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Best of luck Andy,don't forget to take your PLB !
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