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Old 02 May 2014, 09:39   #71
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Yes already said point taken or do you have a problem reading.
I can read that. You aren't covering yourself in glory here. My point is that you are creating a whole hoo ha over absolutely nothing. You are also being unnecessarily rude. This thread is closed for a while....
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...and that while is now over. Measured comment please.
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I personally dont care if he is or isnt, my view is as a celeb in the spotlight he should be. It doesnt look to me like he is.

I dont think there is a solution to the kill cord issue unless its made compulsory which i doubt will happen.

One issue i have more to the point is that publishers make money from all the boating mags they sell and in those mags there are lots and lots of images of high speed small craft where the helm person isnt wearing a kill cord and also no one wearing a life jacket.

I feel the publishers of boat mags as an industry should stop using shots of boats and people underway if they are not wearing a life jacket or kill cord.

Many examples of this in the powerboat and rib mag and yet they jumped on band wagon re kill cords after the milly incident. Lots of other mags also so not limited to pbr. Would be good if pbr made a stand on this, they could get some free pr out of it if they did.
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I dont think there is a solution to the kill cord issue unless its made compulsory which i doubt will happen..............

.........I feel the publishers of boat mags as an industry should stop using shots of boats and people underway if they are not wearing a life jacket or kill cord.
Now, where did I leave that can-opener....

I wouldn't be so sure about the low likelihood of killcord use becoming compulsory (but I do think it won't be policed) - all coded RIBs are already forced to use them so the idea is around. If insurance companies made it clear that they would be arguing the toss in injury cases (contributory negligence) it would make a few think. If Publishers insisted on their use in print, it would have to help. I'm not hugely in favour of trying to enforce safety and remove risk from our every living moment, but there are lots of little things we do without much thought that could be made safer with a little encouragement. Killcords and PFDs are two of them. Many, many awful incidents occur annually that would have ended much less tragically had both these devices been used.

As a side bar, I was at a harbour a couple of weeks ago and saw a family preparing to go fishing in small boat - basically a 15' punt. The man and his three young sons (aged 8-15?) had no PFDs on or in the vessel. There was zero equipment on board other than fishing rods. They had no warm clothes. There was not even a fender or drum to use as buoyancy. Needless to say, no flares or VHF - like I say - the boat was open and empty. The main engine failed to start, so they went off on the aux., no killcord, naturally. I last saw them about two miles out to sea - fishing. The only protective clothing the man had on was a pair of waders....
Lots do this and survive, but quite a few get caught every year. I think a lot of it is down to ignorance and a refusal to consider that something might go wrong.
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One issue i have more to the point is that publishers make money from all the boating mags they sell and in those mags there are lots and lots of images of high speed small craft where the helm person isnt wearing a kill cord and also no one wearing a life jacket.

I feel the publishers of boat mags as an industry should stop using shots of boats and people underway if they are not wearing a life jacket or kill cord.
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What a great and simple idea.. All the right subliminal messages. I think a letter to these magazines is a great idea, even if they take no notice, it might just sow a seed......
(And I wager it won't make letter of the month!!!!)
Think I'm gunna sit and write an email or three........





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Ermm....

At what point did I agree with forum members that he ISN'T wearing a killcord.?

That's right, re read the entire thread- you'll find I haven't.

Well done for making a fool of yourself.....and erm...that's right,

JUMPING TO A CONCLUSION.
Ermm...

If the above comment is aimed/directed towards me, then could you please direct/show/ or qoute the the comments that I made to you about that issue.

I will not hold my breath as it did not happen.

Jumping to conclusions were we.
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bartiny!! chill..... have a beer
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Your right Kerny I do get a bee in my bonnet at times

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So have an ex RNLI helm those boats are awesome and I wish I could buy one but funds don't allow. The engines are fitted with a y shape mercury switch that only operates when inverted when it does it shuts the engine down and a solinod close and seals the air box off when the the boat is righted the switch re opens the airboat and you go through the checks and re start.
The kill cord well when your sat in the seat of a 75 it's the safest place I have ever felt in some very poor weather down in West Cornwall. I drive a searider for work and don't compare. But come second.
And we'll Bear wear a kill cord............ Some one should send him the MAIB report form Padstow. :-(
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New series on ch4 taking people out to an island driving a hardboat with outboard & no kill cord visible. Not a good thing for someone in the public eye, very dissappointing image to portray.
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