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Old 20 June 2004, 05:17   #1
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Engine (and 'bits') for 6.5M new toy?

Almost certainly 150 optimax. But at the rish of starting a HUGE debate does anyone have alternative suggestions?

Likely to be at most four people although we have six seats.

Spec is to be:
Solent Rib 6.5m
Silver grey hull, yellow tubes with lifelines, upgrade to gery D fender and handles and bow fare lead.
Light grey upholstery, yellow piping.
Standard forward facing console with raised windscreen and stainless steel protection rail.
2 x stainless steel grab handles on console.
2 x single man seat pods with stainless steel backrest.
2 x double seat pods (40) with 4 x stainless steel backrests. Front cushion hinging for access.
Elephant drain trunk at deck level.
Bow cleat. 2 x 12m D bolts in transom.
Stainless steel under floor 160l fuel tank with access hatch at rear.
Double A frame with navigation lights and radar reflector.
Anti slip floor in grey.
Rigging complete as outlined on rigging sheet.
This includes water separate filter, hydraulic steering, bilge pump switch panel see attachment in brochure.
2 x mooring lines. Foot pump and repair kit.
2 x fire extinguisher pods with fire extinguishers.
Water proof hatch under font hinged console seat.
Raised bow locker in bow of boat to create larger locker space and sunbathing area.
Mercury 150hp Optimax (black) with stainless steel propeller and black surround smart craft gauges.
Stainless steel engine lock.
Left hand throttle box.
Auxiliary outboard bracket.
Prop bag.
Single Axel Admiral roller coaster trailer, including lights, winch, lockable tow hitch, wheel clamp.
Ratchet strap.

Any comments, suggested additions (airline sick bags for example!), deletions would be welcomed.
Thanks

Bruce

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So Bruce what engine is your new toy going to have?
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Old 20 June 2004, 05:39   #2
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Honda 150 vtec
Suzuki 140 4/s
Evenrude 150 fitch

As for the spec all looks good but ask for bigger hindges on the console than he used on mine because they have already bent from the shock. Looking at the another solent 6.5m at ribex his hindges had suffered the same fate so you might aswell put better ones on in the begining.
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Old 20 June 2004, 06:02   #3
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Good spec, Bruce.

Few things I would consider...
1. Twin bilge pumps. They are such a pain if they fail.
2. Elephant's trunk - why not fit two - if you need them, you really need them!
3. "2 x stainless steel grab handles on console" - are these mounted vertically or horizontally? I've always found that vertical ones are very difficult to hold onto with wet hands/gloves and a single horizontal rail is much easier.

This point is possibly a bit OTT - but if I were speccing a new RIB I would get the elephant's tube cords routed to the driver's seat for remote release.

Oh, and if you want to be really flash, you can get LED nav lights!

What color will the lifelines be? Dark lines will mark the yellow tubes, and the salt deposits will abrade the tube. I wouldn't fit them personally. Unless I was planning to do a lot of rescue work.
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Old 20 June 2004, 15:20   #4
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Good spec, Bruce.

get the elephant's tube cords routed to the driver's seat for remote release.
Why not have electric ones or better still remote control ones or even hydrolic ones - for feck sake !!!!!

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Life lines, I wouldn't fit them personally. Unless I was planning to do a lot of rescue work.
Now ya are taken the piss Rich - why not leave out the radio and flares and life jackets cause ya mighten need em either and as for kill cord - the color might clash with the console.

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Old 20 June 2004, 16:41   #5
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Why not have electric ones or better still remote control ones or even hydrolic ones - for feck sake !!!!!
Even better - get a li'l oirish fella to send back to do the jobs!

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Now ya are taken the piss Rich - why not leave out the radio and flares and life jackets cause ya mighten need em either and as for kill cord - the color might clash with the console...
Now you're not thinking about this Paul... 'cos life lines are fitted too high on most RIBs (Look at The RNLI's Atlantic 21 or 75 - they're fitted as close to the rubbing strake as possible) and how many people are you thinking of rescuing... are you expecting the QM2 to go down and have survivors hanging along the whole length of the boat? (not that they'll be able to reach the portion of the life-line at the front) Better to have a loop of rope, or a webbing ladder that anyone in the water can get their foot in.
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Old 20 June 2004, 16:52   #6
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Not the qm2 , people fall in, get flipped out, get pushed out, go swimming etc. no doubt there is many here how have been in that position and have used the lines for some or all of the above.

Again why bother with any safety gear. It may help and have a use if its there .

Regarding height - its a solent and the tubes are sitting in the water at rest.

A ladder is feck all use if your all ready in the drink
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Yeah, but what I'm saying is get something that's more useful - specially when the "casualty" could be really knackered and wearing waterlogged clothes (remember Martyn last October?) Your arms become tired very, very quickly when raised above your head. What you need is something to get your foot in - which will be a couple of feet or so below water That's why a rope stirrup (tied to a-frame) or a webbing ladder is more use. And if I remember correctly, you were looking for a fixed ladder last year to use when boarding after swimming?

(You can unpack our webbing ladder by pulling the velcro from in the water.)
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And if I remember correctly, you were looking for a fixed ladder last year to use when boarding after swimming?
Hmmmmmmmmmm
Rich... he tends to sit on board playing with the GPS while I try to haul my carcass back over the transom without
a) killing myself
b) flipping the boat
c) denting the engine...

I have been begging him to purchase a ladder but of course he doesn't see the need

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Life lines, I wouldn't fit them personally.
I wouldn't have flappy-around-loopy-lifelines. I'd probably have a straight one though (for want of a better word!)

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Old 20 June 2004, 17:44   #10
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It is amazing. I am spending 10s of thousands of pounds on a boat, looking for intellegent criticism of major items such as a state of the art engine, and what do I get for my troubles - "flappy-around-loopy-lifelines"

I promise I will pester the long suffering Lee tomorrow with a request to solve the problem of the flappy loopies (is he going to regret accepting my order!).

Now, can we perhaps focus on the major issues. Is the engine right? What should I do for electronics? What have I forgotten? What don't I need?

Can we raise the tone of this thread?

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