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10 April 2011, 09:59
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Cumbria/London/Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
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emergencySMS
It has been banded on here many times, and it is regularly repeated in the RYA handbooks that when at sea with limited mobile phone signal it is more likely that a text message will get through as opposed to a phone call. The other day therefore I decided to investigate this further: was it simply a case that when in trouble, texting 999 could replace a phone call? It is not I discovered, for first of all you must register you number with the services, and better to do that now at home than have to try and remember the instructions on how to do it when capsized mid-channel
So, for anyone interested, the instructions to sign yourself up to the (free) service are as follows:
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To register using SMS text messages you must:
Send the word 'register' in an SMS message to 999
You will then receive SMS messages about the service
When you have read these SMS messages reply by sending 'yes' in an SMS message to 999
You will receive a SMS message telling you that your mobile phone is registered or if there is a problem with your registration
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More info here: http://emergencysms.org.uk/index.php
Describing its relevance to us a bit more: http://www.ukclimbing.com/news/item.php?id=59071
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10 April 2011, 10:19
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 5,855
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Gothi, an interesting post although I don't ever recall it being discussed here in the past and certainly not many times. Do you know if a phone is out of range of its own service provider if sms to 999 can be routed via competitor masts as per voice calls?
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10 April 2011, 10:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Rokraiders 1 & 2
Make: BWM 21 + Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: BMW 3.0 TDI & Jet
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 156
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That is a very useful piece of information, thanks for posting it.
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10 April 2011, 10:53
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,237
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Gothi, an interesting post although I don't ever recall it being discussed here in the past and certainly not many times. Do you know if a phone is out of range of its own service provider if sms to 999 can be routed via competitor masts as per voice calls?
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Yes I believe so - a 999 will go via any available network. If you bring a phone down here with a UK sim card in, it will say "Emergency only" or similar, depends on the phone, and you can call 999 but nowt else.
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10 April 2011, 11:50
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Linlithgow
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Yes I believe so - a 999 will go via any available network. If you bring a phone down here with a UK sim card in, it will say "Emergency only" or similar, depends on the phone, and you can call 999 but nowt else.
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Steven,
Yes I know thats what happens with voice calls here - I'm just not sure if that happens with texts? I should maybe have waited to register my phone until I was in an Emergency calls only area and tried sending the registration sms! I'll do that with Mrs P's phone.
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10 April 2011, 12:05
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
I don't ever recall it being discussed here
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Me neither.
Interesting post though  I shall have a play after lighting the BBQ, it should not be too hard to convince my phone that I am in France.
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10 April 2011, 17:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,997
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Cheers for that and well done for not mentioning the "O" word!
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10 April 2011, 19:21
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Yes I believe so - a 999 will go via any available network. If you bring a phone down here with a UK sim card in, it will say "Emergency only" or similar, depends on the phone, and you can call 999 but nowt else.
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That is so on my phone too but it will only allow dialling of a number when it's in that mode rather than allowing full access to the texting service, perhaps it's different on different phones.
A good post though Gotchiguy.
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10 April 2011, 20:01
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fife
Boat name: Puddleduck III
Make: Bombard
Length: 5m +
Engine: 50 HP
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 907
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I tweeted this a few months ago... I registered my phone took 8 hrs for aknowledgement...
I been told it does not matter if you use 112 or 999 as both are routed the same way, and the modern day tech they can track you very quickly...
They tell you they will acknowledge your 999 request, unless you get this message assume it not gone through.
Was designed for the Deaf , but can be used by anybody...
Most important is to pre register your phone in advance.
Regards
S.
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10 April 2011, 23:35
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RIBnet supporter
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Yes I know thats what happens with voice calls here - I'm just not sure if that happens with texts?
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Now you mention it I don't think you can send texts at all on any of mine the only option is an emergency call. No idea if you can text 999 or not - it wouldn't work here anyway.
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