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Old 14 December 2009, 04:47   #41
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Right I am only reiterating what I was taught on my rya sea survival course and for that matter my BOSIET course
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Old 14 December 2009, 04:50   #42
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You are probably aware that the head loses a lot more heat in the waer than the body. So carrying simple things like a woolen hat help the thernal recovery process. a good run with a towel help get the head and other parts warm too.

It's worth sticking a warm change of clothes in your drynag as well. TPA Thermal protective aids are quite cheap and wiill do a job in an emergency.

Yes, i had spare clothing and hats along with some foil emergency blankets on board, but as it wasn't too far back to Plymouth decided not to bother changing on the boat. However if we had of been further out then obviously would have done. I have a camping type towel which i will now take with me.


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so in conclusion and on the basis I can't interest you in a trawler girl from Peterhead
You might, i will wait and see if this one intends to go out on the water again before i head norf

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I'd fit footstraps to your sea rider. If you've already got em I'd start using them.
I have actually been contemplating fitting these for a while, my decision has now been made. Any suggestions where to get hold of them?


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DM might shed more light on this but don't the foil blankets also keep the cold in?
Plastic survival bags that are orange might be better.
We have an body bag (sorry Ambulance Pouch) that works well.
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- interesting though that even then you had a pre warning to not go out with a dead battery as a hurdle - is there a Saint of RIB's????

Will be looking at some personal flares - they seems a good idea

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Jean, i am glad you mentioned that because the last time i had a nightmare trip (lost ignition key etc) the battery was flat. So in future if the engine doesn't start i wont be going anywhere because St RIB is looking after me.....i hope?

I have flares on the boat but will add personal ones to the shopping list. Now who can i ask to buy them for me for Christmas?
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Right I am only reiterating what I was taught on my rya sea survival course and for that matter my BOSIET course
Did they teach you this as well?
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Also don't forget that you and your boat will be drifting in the same tide so it wont ge much further away from you after immersion
Because unless you're in an absolutely dead calm then the RIB will head downwind from a swimmer at a surprising rate.

Can you list all your professional certificates for us again?
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Would be interested on peoples view on automatic life jackets though. Can see the benifits if knocked unconcious but other than that not to sure.
Automatic all the way as far as I'm concerned.

With a manual air jacket you need to find a small toggle and pull it before your life jacket starts to save your life. Cold hands, cold water shock and general disorientation will all be working against you even if you are basically conscious and uninjured. Add concussion or a potential injury like a dislocated shoulder and you may as well not be wearing a life jacket at all.

An automatic jacket takes all this out of the equation, and when it has inflated you can always let some air out if you need to.
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Automatic all the way as far as I'm concerned.

With a manual air jacket you need to find a small toggle and pull it before your life jacket starts to save your life. Cold hands, cold water shock and general disorientation will all be working against you even if you are basically conscious and uninjured. Add concussion or a potential injury like a dislocated shoulder and you may as well not be wearing a life jacket at all.

An automatic jacket takes all this out of the equation, and when it has inflated you can always let some air out if you need to.
Manual for me I'm afraid, both have pro's and cons but if you intentionally enter the water an auto is no use.
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Manual for me I'm afraid, both have pro's and cons but if you intentionally enter the water an auto is no use.
I disagree. For normal leisure use on a powerboat there is no advantage to a manual, and no significant disadvantage to an auto.

You may have special reason for wanting to get into the water, but most don't - and if they did, they'd most likely be wearing a bouyancy aid anyway. I think all your post does is muddy the water and put doubt into people's minds, potentially leading them to making poor decisions and ending up less safe. I'm sure that's not what you intended though!
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Old 14 December 2009, 07:13   #50
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EJECT EJECT EJECT ..........

Glad you are OK. Must have been chuffin cold !

I'd go auto Jacket every time ( I hope to not ever go in the water - if I do I have a PFD on)

Unless you have video it scores lowly on the pub story scale . Can we set a record fro RIBnet's chucked out of a boat in 12 month period ?
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