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Old 14 October 2012, 10:29   #41
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Having twice had to take advantage of a tow (before I entered the rib world), I tend to thing what goes around comes around and I'm happy to tow someone if I can do so safely (otherwise I'm happy, as I think Willk is suggesting, to do my best to make sure nobody dies whilst getting more appropriate help).

I've towed one boat (a very short distance), and given one guy a lift (by sea) back to his car and trailer after his boat broke down. In both cases neither boat was really suitable for towing (no secure fittings, generally unseaworthy, no lifejackets etc).

There are a lot of myths about salvage. Its unlikely that a typical rib offering to tow a jet ski or other small craft to the nearest safe haven, in usual leisure boating conditions, has a substantial claim.
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Old 14 October 2012, 10:55   #42
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I'd like to think that we're all sharing the water & enjoying it in different ways !! There's always going to be the idiots wherever you enjoy your leisure time. Personally I wouldn't set off without VHF/flares lifejackets for everyone etc etc as I'd never forgive myself if anything happened to the kids or anyone else. There will no doubt be a few RIB idiots on the go but I wouldn't want to risk not helping someone obviously struggling in the water wether on a jetski or other watercraft even if they are muppets. On the plus side it lets the RNLI get on with the real rescues & not waste time on badly prepared individuals.
You never know when your own disaster might happen even with the best preparation !
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Old 15 October 2012, 12:27   #43
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I posted a post on the PWC forum this morning, guess what just had a call from my marina who stated a chap has just come in and left a mooring line for me, so a week late but at least I now have it returned. I wonder if my post on the PWC forum did the trick !

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Old 15 October 2012, 17:34   #44
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I think non of us started off as salty the sea dog but our experience is what backs up the overpowering drive towards safety.people underestimate the sea and sometimes you have to learn by your mistakes we've all been there I would support mandatory pleasure craft registration number plate type system required for mooring buying selling insuring etc and a theory test at least to prove you understand enough about navigation to get you home. If I was faced with the that situation I would have made them safe and called sea start as you can join on the day and left them to it.
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Old 16 October 2012, 02:42   #45
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I think non of us started off as salty the sea dog but our experience is what backs up the overpowering drive towards safety.people underestimate the sea and sometimes you have to learn by your mistakes we've all been there I would support mandatory pleasure craft registration number plate type system required for mooring buying selling insuring etc and a theory test at least to prove you understand enough about navigation to get you home. If I was faced with the that situation I would have made them safe and called sea start as you can join on the day and left them to it.
I suppose I could have towed them to a mooring buoy or lobster pot marker and tied there jet ski on to it and called RNLI or Sea Start but that wasnt an option, when the weather is cold and windy like it is in the UK it doesn't take long for two people floating about in leisure type of wetsuits to get hyperthermic and I could see they were allready a bit cold, plus I had to tow them somewhere as they were driting towards training bank and that would have hurt.
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Presumably , if you tow a broken PWC back to shore and have thrown them a line to attach, you have a legal salvage claim if needed?
Personally I would rather tow them and their craft to safety and hope that they would do the right thing by me, rather than mess about taking them but not their craft, it seems rather petty. If it couldn't be towed then obviously the next best option would be to tie it off on something and get the people ashore.
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Old 16 October 2012, 04:05   #47
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I doubt any of us would (a) just tow someone to a bouy and leave them there, (b) claim salvage. I've towed loads of people with my rib and even my jet ski and never thought anything of it.
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That whole "throw a line and claim salvage" thing is an old wives tale I'm afraid

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I would rather tow them in rather than start transferring persons onto my boat out at sea unless they are suffering the effects of cold ,
It's bad enough taking on the responsibility of towing someone else's craft but when they are on your boat too or you trying to transfer persons you have a greater responsibility to your own boat & crew especially if there's not enough lifejackets to then go around for everyone .

I remember one of our elderly club members picking up some piss heads that had floated off on a toy inflatable and getting blown into a shipping channel only to finish up when he took them onboard to start messing around in his boat and giving him a load of abuse !
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I remember one of our elderly club members picking up some piss heads that had floated off on a toy inflatable and getting blown into a shipping channel only to finish up when he took them onboard to start messing around in his boat and giving him a load of abuse !
Just shows that no good deed goes unpunished.
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