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Old 01 December 2008, 13:59   #11
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Seems like I'm not a tree hugger after all!
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Old 01 December 2008, 15:54   #12
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Without a PFD you can easily be dead within 10 mins. With a PFD it's a different matter!
Absolutely.

There is another point to consider. What is less well known in this context is that if you're wearing the extra buoyancy that a drysuit/wetsuit/survival suit provides, you actually should wear a lifejacket with greater buoyancy than otherwise (probably a 275N jacket rather than 150N). There are two problems that come with extra buoyancy in the wrong place. One is that the extra buoyancy that comes with air around your legs causes your lower body to float higher in the water, and that changed body attitude pushes your head further back and your airways aren't held clear of the water in the same way. Second, the air trapped inside (and the same can apply to oilies) can be caught around your back and make it hard - maybe impossible if the wearer is unconscious - to correctly turn you face up in the water

Your choice of PFD needs to be informed by what you're wearing
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Old 01 December 2008, 16:28   #13
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Looks like I'll need to get myself a 275N then.
After getting into the drysuit I always crouch down on the floor and open the kneck seal. You wouldn't believe how much air comes out.
Cheers for that info gents
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Old 01 December 2008, 16:33   #14
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Forgot to mention about the trapped air. Once you have the dry suit on fold your arms across your chest and pull your neck seal out and crouch down letting most (but not all) the excess air out of your suit.

The crewsaver jackets we have are bulky but have built in foam buoyancy and a seperate bladder for air inflation.

http://www.crewsaver.co.uk/Crewsaver...l?catid=62#152

Have a look at the RIB 150N, they the ones we use, they do provide a bit of wind protection too.
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Old 01 December 2008, 17:19   #15
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fourhundredandseventy-How much! Looks a good piece of kit though.
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BassBoy Seems like I'm not a tree hugger after all!
Forgot to mention about the trapped air. Once you have the dry suit on fold your arms across your chest and keep farting as far as you can go missing the follow through keep your neck seal shut and crouch down keeping most all the excess marsh gas in of your suit.
and you should float
Yer still a tree hugger
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Drysuit? HUGE difference when out. . .

It was actually my hospital consultant who told me to get my drysuit - an experienced Ribber, he (rightly) believed that the inherent dryness and added warmth-enabling qualities of a drysuit would let me continue to use my SR4 in the face of osteo-arthritis.
Still has a couple of issues though - keeping hands and feet warm.
Hands - stopped using my Henri Lloyd neoprene gloves and switched to Sealskin (merely a tradename ) - layers of wool, breathable membrane and tough knitted nylon outer with gripped fingers & palms. Though designed for land-based outdooring, excellent on the RIB

Have still to find a solution to the warm feet issue - currently using layered socks under the latex boots with neoprene outer boots. Any ideas anyone?
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Have still to find a solution to the warm feet issue - currently using layered socks under the latex boots with neoprene outer boots. Any ideas anyone?
Heated insoles with thermal socks and a booted drysuit. I bought Sixy some a couple of years ago and they are apparently wonderful.
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Old 01 December 2008, 18:00   #19
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I'm using Ski gloves and on my feet have thermal socks under the drysuit sock then put a sailing wellie on. Seems to work so far but them fishing wellies with the big foam sock look good. Unless you go for a swim.
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Having used various dry suits over the years and working in an offshore enviroment the ones we now use are multifab and they have inbuilt thermal insulation plus what you are wearing under the suit gives you the best chance to survive in this hostile enviroment
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