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Old 06 October 2008, 12:16   #11
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The dive shop I frequent does a lot of diving drysuit repairs. In general, here's the procedure:

Buff the top edge of the boots that will receive glue. Using a heatgun, remove the old boots. Remove as much adhesive from the fabric as possible, clean with a strongish solvent (MEK, Toluene). Place a form in the ankle, and roll back to expose the section to be glued. Mark where the top edge of the boot should be on the form to mate up with the leg. The form should keep the fabric ankle open; solvent wipe the fabric, and apply adhesive to that area. Same with the boots. Allow to dry, apply another coat. Repeat last step. Depending on adhesive used, either when tacky or when cured, place boot in position over the form, and carefully roll the adhesive-lined fabric over the boot. If the adhesive is heat activated, hit it with a heat gun while rolling the fabric on, if it's not, roll it down. Most manufacturers apply a heat activated seam tape; you can get by using a thin line of polyurethane adhesive (Aquaseal, Shoe Goo, etc) on the exposed edges of the seam, though an accellerator is recommended to thin it out, speed cure, and prevent running.

BTW, make sure you put the left boot on the left leg, and vice versa, and make sure the boots face forwards.

Check with your local dive shop for sources for the rubber boots (they're usually insulated, so you might want to take a look before deciding on suitability.)

All in all, it's not a really tough job, but I've got a drysuit repair guy 15 minutes away, so it's unlikely I'd ever do it on my own (until something changes.)

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I went to Andark yesterday to have a look at the boots they'll fit for me. These were diving boots which disapointed me a I thought they might be a more traditional boot where liners can be used. I tried the boot on and the first thing I noticed was how close fitting they were. Couldn't get any pairs of warm socks on to insulate the foot. The other thing was that they weren't ridgid across the sides and from experience I have found this to sometimes feel uncomfortable as your foot can get crushed easily.

A very attractive assistant did show me a modern drysuit with fabric socks that are aparently unbreakable, but when she rang me back today she told me that these couldn't be ordered.

I also looked at my Dunlop wellys to see if these could be fitted, but as I found out, the wellys have a larger cirumferance than the leg on the drysuit. So using traditional wellys is out as well.

So I might be getting the puncture repair outfit out again this year and soldiering on with what I've got.


I have my eye on a thermal boot and I'm going to buy a 2pc floatation suit this should give me some more options on my Winter RIBbing.
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Check with your local dive shop for sources for the rubber boots (they're usually insulated, so you might want to take a look before deciding on suitability.)
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The Boots I looked at weren't insulated. Perhaps I should keep looking for the boots then.
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Old 06 October 2008, 14:07   #14
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Thanks for that, you've just brought back some happy memories

My Mother used to make wetsuits for my Father, brother and myself exactly as you've said.
They arrived in the post as a reel of fabric backed neoprene, either pre-marked out or with a paper pattern, a reel of neoprene tape and a pot of glue. After cutting out each seam was glued and taped over.
We are talking 30 to 35 years ago though, and they'd be used for diving. They were expensive too as I remember, roughly the same price 30 years ago as an off-the shelf steamer wet suit today.
My Mother would 'Tailor' them, adding bits in the back or taking a bit out, and just gluing it back together.
I often had one of my older brothers old ones with a slice taken out and glued back together, then they'd be passed on to Davybouy on here to cut and glue for his kids. Mad.

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remember the tape was yellow and kept comming off and the neopreane was engish mesh or shark skin, funny i was only looking at an old recipt for one last week from 1972 12 two piece suit, kids they dont know they are born these days ,
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The Boots I looked at weren't insulated. Perhaps I should keep looking for the boots then.
Talk to Ravenspring-their replacement prices are pretty good. Some of those ones I was flogging had what looked like short wellies on them-fitted and supplied by Ravenspring as far as I know.
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remember the tape was yellow and kept comming off and the neopreane was engish mesh or shark skin, funny i was only looking at an old recipt for one last week from 1972 12 two piece suit, kids they dont know they are born these days ,
Ahhhhhh.

That Yellow tape................and the Dolphin badge you stuck on afterwards...........

I'm drifting off now into a rose tinted world of seaside holiday memories.

see you all in a few hours.
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Talk to Ravenspring-their replacement prices are pretty good. Some of those ones I was flogging had what looked like short wellies on them-fitted and supplied by Ravenspring as far as I know.
Thanks Matt, I'll speak to them.
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Well after several personal visits to shops the general view was that it's going to be a difficult job and that it'll have to be sent back to Typhoon for replacement boot fitment something about stitched seams and thin material.

I've Email Typhoon this afternoon, so I await a response before continuing.
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This might work, it is commonly used by cavers in wet caves:

1) Locate a pair of comfortable Welllingtons.
2) Go to a place that has plumbing stuff and find a piece of thin plastic pipe that fits _inside_ the very top of the boot. Make a couple of rings out of the pipe.
3) Go to a tire shop and find an old inner tube that will stretch over the top of the boots with the rings in the top. Make a set of wide rubber bands out of the old inner tube.
4) Cut the cuffs off your drysuit to about shin height. (It works best to match the cross section of the top of the Wellingtons to the open cross section of the dry suit legs. This eliminates any folded material.)

Donning:
1) Put on your drysuit.
2) Put the rubber bands around the ankle of the Wellingtons.
3) Put on the boots and pull the bands so that they constrict the legs of the drysuit against the top of the boots.

You can actually wade in the water and water does not enter if you have set things up correctly.

Hope this helps someone.
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I'd think that something like a wheelbarrow inner tube would be about right, 4str.

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