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Old 15 June 2004, 12:22   #81
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<<it seems to me that those of us who have been open about our involvement with the RNLI have actually been very positive about the independents>>
Have to agree there!


And yes, Mr. Brooks, - tis my round indeed, pints of Beamish will be provided (it is 40c cheaper than the other stuff!!!)

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Old 15 June 2004, 14:12   #82
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I think the RNLI should be supported and i do support them, i am an offshore member and also contribute thoughout the year. I have done this for years as did my late Mum even though she never went to sea. If you take the time to read about the History of the RNLI and some of the thousands of rescues they have carried out you will see that they are Hero's who risk their lives to help others.They deserve our support and we should be proud of the RNLI they represent what is best about our Country. By all means support other services if you wish but never forget the RNLI.
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Old 15 June 2004, 14:24   #83
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Not necessarily JK. Think rationally - it depends on what you have to do with that 1200. Your NHS gets through millions of pounds a day. Is it well funded?
The budget of the NHS has absolutely no bearing on this. Why do you keep changing the subject?

I suspect that any of the independent lifeboat organisations would describe half a million pounds a year as "very well funded indeed"!

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I suspect that any of the independent lifeboat organisations would describe half a million pounds a year as "very well funded indeed"!

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How many stations have to share that "half million"?
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That's per station!

Actually I was exaggerating. The actual figure is only about 430,000 . . .

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That's per station!

Actually I was exaggerating. The actual figure is only about 430,000 . . .

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OK, and to keep the discussion balanced, that figure would typically cover a station with up to three boats (ALB, ILB and/or D-class), yes? And where there's a Severn Class stationed, that must eat into the runing costs in a serious way. So you can't really compare this "average" figure of an RNLI station to running a RIB equipped volunteer service.
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85 replies, 2,650 viewings - can we change the subject, please?
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OK, and to keep the discussion balanced, that figure would typically cover a station with up to three boats (ALB, ILB and/or D-class), yes? And where there's a Severn Class stationed, that must eat into the runing costs in a serious way. So you can't really compare this "average" figure of an RNLI station to running a RIB equipped volunteer service.
Well, a substantial proportion of the RNLI is a "RIB equipped volunteer service", but I accept the point about the running costs of all weather boats.

Perhaps if the independents were better funded they might be able to run some larger and more capable lifeboats!

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Perhaps if the independents were better funded they might be able to run some larger and more capable lifeboats!
Surely there's a very good ALB coverage, and it's the ILB coverage that the independents provide. Look at the Solent - RNLI ALBs at Yarmouth, Calshot and Bembridge with inshore coverage provided courtesy of the independents at Cowes, Hamble, Ryde, Gosport&Fareham and on the south side at Freshwater. Exactly where are the larger and more capable lifeboats needed?
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trouble is that some but not all , have very different approach to training and crew qualifications ie in house training
the RNLI and the RLSS have a very good training syllabus recognised throughout the world the independants ( not all) try to emulate the RNLI/RLSS
and some acheive a very high standard others do not , so if you want to give money to to an indie have a chat with the training coxswain to see how they operate then make up your mind, some indies are very capable others are downright dangerous .my money is staying with RNLI and the RLSS
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