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Old 03 October 2006, 00:51   #111
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first of all Dirk you should look at your sig line, because you have removed ALL doubt
Oh, you can be so hurtful at times



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I better stop now before I really offend someone.

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We're all entitled to our own opinions, assuming they are the same as yours I suspect.
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Instead of spouting off you should try organising a fundraising event see how hard it is compared with how much you raise.
Just for the record, John was involved in this little event we ran a while ago: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ghlight=gafirs If you have a look around the forum, you'll find other benevolent events such as http://rib.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33
Right Kennett, you can have your trumpet back now I've blown it for you!
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Oh, you can be so hurtful at times
It hurts me to think that people would want to stop people funding the RNLI and you certainly do not want this service funded and controlled by the Government do we.


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We're all entitled to our own opinions, assuming they are the same as yours I suspect.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you don't have to share mine, hence the discussion forum. I am just expressing my opinions and feelings like everybody else. The one major difference is mine is based on fact.

Lets do something useful here, lets see how many "Lives Saved/ Boats Rescued" by the RNLI against "Boats Helped" by the independants since this thread started.

I also read in someone elses post where someone said that it doesn't matter who comes to rescue you as long as you get rescued. That is true, and another guy got slagged off becuase he said he would prefer the RNLI. I think the comments included something about a guy in a fast car with a bucket of water but think of this...

If the rescue coordinator said to the Fire Brigade, there is no need for you to attend as there is a guy with a bucket of water on the way.
Great the guy with the bucket of water gets there, but his resources are limited to the bucket of water when he gets there he needs a hose, and there are major burns victims, now they need the fire brigade and paramedics so the delay in getting the proper rescue services onsite are delayed.

My point being that it is great having the independants available as long as it does not interfere, detract or stop with getting the correct rescue service on scene, being the closest doesn't always help it can delay in getting real help.
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Just for the record, John was involved in this little event we ran a while ago: http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ghlight=gafirs If you have a look around the forum, you'll find other benevolent events such as http://rib.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=33
Right Kennett, you can have your trumpet back now I've blown it for you!
Involved or fully organised?
And I bet it was a hella lot of work for the 200 you raised, but then every little helps
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Involved or fully organised?
Don't start splitting hairs just because you've been knocked off your high horse!
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And I bet it was a hella lot of work for the 200 you raised, but then every little helps
The Treasure Hunt was a helluva lot of good fun, that was the point!
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Don't start splitting hairs just because you've been knocked off your high horse!
The Treasure Hunt was a helluva lot of good fun, that was the point!
ooh err missus, handbags at dawn.
And I thought the point would have been to raise funds for the charity?

I think you missed my point (and you never answered my question)
Look back at the 1st post where he makes out that because there is 1,600 fundraising branches that the RNLI is rich. Your fundraising event proves my point exactly a lot of fun yes, a lot of work "organising" YES a lot of money not really. Asking the question whether he was involved or organised is not splitting hairs there is a HUGE difference in organising an event in comparison to just being involved.

BTW: I don't have a high horse, just a short ass little Donkey! lol
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Stats

Since this post was started on the 9th of June 2004 upto the 30th September 2006 (based on averages)

The RNLI has saved 1107 lives and has launched to 19,152 incidents

has anyone got the stats for the independants?
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has anyone got the stats for the independants?
Unrealistic, as different organisations will compile different stats, and some probably won't have particularly good stats. RNLI stats are always easy to find, and I certainly wouldn't knock them, but the politics motivate them to produce this data.

Have a look here for a brief overview of the GAFIRS stats: http://www.gafirs.org.uk/profile.html
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I can't help thinking that this thread has now lost it's way.

The RNLI is a fantastic organisation that is now run by a shrewd team that understood the need to develop revenue (and save expenditure) by using their property assets better. The college is a superb facility for training and generates revenue that would otherwise have to come through the collecting tin, fundraisers, subscription, legacies etc. It also happens to save a phenomenal amount of money on accommodation (which is why the Bournemouth and Poole hoteliers got together to oppose it's planning permission!). Nothing should change and there is no doubt that this is a FANTASTIC, world leading example of life saving.

The Independents do a superb job. They provide a fantastic service in areas where the RNLI may be stretched (the Solent being an excellent example). In most cases they are superbly trained, well equipped and use theirs skills, abilities and tools in a manner that is professional in all but name! They need MORE support than the RNLI simply because they don't have the fundraising infrastructure and revenue generation opportunities that are available to a time-served, national body like that.

In an ideal world there would be more cross-over of funding, training, resources etc. It isn't an ideal world so lets get off the f**king soapboxes and realise that we have the best commitment to lifesaving anywhere in the world and that in order to keep it at that level we need to ensure that all parties remain well supported.
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It isn't an ideal world so lets... ...realise that we have the best commitment to lifesaving anywhere in the world
A very good point - backed up by BogMonsters wish for just one lifeboat!

I pay an RNLI membership each year, and donate to collecting tins for other organisations as and when I see fit. At the end of the day, if I need rescuing, I'm not going to be picky about who rescues me, and whether as an organisation they are rich or poor.
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