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Old 09 September 2007, 19:43   #131
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I think Phantoms are fantasic boats and a P18 or something would be great for hooning around the solent in but would you take it up the coast to Weymouth or across the channel to Cherbourg?

We bought a 6m rib because we thought it was far more suitable for cruising than any 6m hard bote on the market.
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Old 09 September 2007, 19:53   #132
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a P18 or something would be great for hooning around the solent in but would you take it up the coast to Weymouth or across the channel to Cherbourg?
Given that he has a 70MPH 600hp Phantom 28 and only takes that as far as Cowes, I think it's fair to assume that the answer would be no!

He'll probably trot out a load of excuses about how he "could if he wanted to, but can't be bothered" and that sort of blather. Ignore it all though. The fact is that on the four or five days that have been calm and sunny enough this year for him to risk it, the total of his boating horizon is Driver's Wharf to the Folly Inn. And of that the bit from Cowes to the Folly takes the longest time.

Don't let that fool you though. Behind that smug supercillious and frankly irritating facade lies a cuddly little ginger man who actually knows a thing or two about boats. And he's kind to animals.

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PS Looking forward to the race with Mr Manning. Just need to find someone to lend Mr Fuller a P18.
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Old 09 September 2007, 20:00   #133
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Having briefly met Jon once I can confirm it has been as far as Yarmouth!
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Having briefly met Jon once I can confirm it has been as far as Yarmouth!
Yes, but not for a long time. ..I could if I wanted to, but I can't be bothered.

Oi Kennett, you lanky streak of P*ss, the TinTin haired geezer sat in the passenger seat of this chunk of tupperware dunarf look like you! You haven't been enjoying the dark side on the sly have you??? feckin double agent!!!

Rumour has it, you've been spotted in that boat a few times!..

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Getting back to the 'are hard boats suitable' thing. back in the 60's when the tough London lads founded the London-Calais-London race, the first event was won by Clive Curtis. to get things in perspective, he won that 235 mile race in a Bry-Owens 14' speedboat with 40hp on it's arse. So in answer to an ealier post, would a modern 6m Phantom manage a trip up the coast, as a boat imeasurably superior to a B-O 14, the answer is yes, easily. Of course, if you're the type thats too scared to go out boating without ya water wings pre inflated and welden on, you're probably not the right type of guy to be going boating in open water anyway, so stick to the canals or summat.
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But being capable of doing something and being suitable for it are completly different things.
Your average P18 with the cog well back and bucket seats isn't as suitable for crusing up the coast for a couple hours. When it gets lumpy they'll be really uncomfortable at speed and horrible to drive at less than planing speed.
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horrible to drive at less than planing speed.
Yes, planing hulls are feckin dreadfull when off the plane, why would you use one for that? the same goes for planing hulls with silly rubber bits on em.(remember it's the boat that does the work, not the fender) that's like using an aeroplane to drive on the motorway.

You're drifting back into the dreamy macho realms of hoping for a hurricane again, coz for some reason, you think you'll actually go boating in it.
'Real' life is quite different.

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Your average P18 aint 6 metre either, your average P21 is though. and with virtually all of em having bow tanks, you put the cog where ya want it.
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