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Old 15 November 2014, 14:35   #21
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They are nice bling in leisure boats but I'm sceptical that most weekend leisure users really need them.
Dunno - would have been nice that day you were driving....
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Old 15 November 2014, 14:58   #22
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Dunno - would have been nice that day you were driving....

Yes I saw the bottom of your rib a few times that day!!


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Old 15 November 2014, 15:15   #23
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Dunno - would have been nice that day you were driving....
Nonsense - the hull was perfectly capable of a smooth landing! Now the Isle of Man trip a few years back... but even then with someone who knew what they were doing at the helm it was remarkably smooth ...although there are a couple of guys who have never stepped onto a boat since!

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my instructions were clear - keep the prop in the water - nobody mentioned the hull!
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Old 15 November 2014, 15:32   #24
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my instructions were clear - keep the prop in the water - nobody mentioned the hull!
You'd make a good lawyer...

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Old 15 November 2014, 16:48   #25
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Not really the injury would have been caused by driving hard off the top of a wave and landing in a big hole - skipper error not the seat. The downside of suspension seats is they lead you into a false sense of security by compensating for lots of minor bangs, but they aren't miracle machines and if you go off a cliff its still going to hurt. They aren't really intended to avoid the massive big shock - they are to avoid the repetitive low-mid level stuff that fatigues you on a long bouncy day, or adds up over a long period to sustained damage.

They are nice bling in leisure boats but I'm sceptical that most weekend leisure users really need them.
It is true that the suspended jockey seats have their limitations, but all are not equal in terms of cushioning! Today, more and more manufacturers use shock absorbers with air spring and adjustable preload. This solution can reduce or stop the risk of bottoming, and the injury than they can cause.

Look at this: Maritime Journal - Scot Seats Marine launch
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It is true that the suspended jockey seats have their limitations, but all are not equal in terms of cushioning! Today, more and more manufacturers use shock absorbers with air spring and adjustable preload. This solution can reduce or stop the risk of bottoming, and the injury than they can cause.

Look at this: Maritime Journal - Scot Seats Marine launch
I would agree.
I've had them for a few seasons now,and while every thing has its limits,QUALITY (and the clue is in the name)"Shock mitigation" seats or systems are a real Bonus and IMO a Boon!...to BOTH comfort and safety.
For me they do enhance the Boating experience,especially if you enjoy rough weather Ribbing,and or indulge in long passages.
Can you get away without them? Of course you can..we've all managed for years.
But...things move on and improvements are made....look how far car suspension technology has improved over the years....with most vehicle users having a pretty soft ride before! Compared to Ribbers!
Hopefully prices will come down in the future as more manufacturers get involved,but this kit does take some serious Cosh!...and needs top quality design and materials!...As in all things.. Leading to high costs.
It does worry me that people in thier attempt to produce homemade,cheaper versions may do themselves or thier family/friends very serious injuries when it doesn't work out how they'd hoped!
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I agree Maximus, any DIY solution needs to be properly engineered. I've done some maths and my current issue is that I can't get sufficient travel into the device, if it sits on top of my existing jockey seat pod... unless I grow about a foot....
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I would agree.
I've had them for a few seasons now,and while every thing has its limits,QUALITY (and the clue is in the name)"Shock mitigation" seats or systems are a real Bonus and IMO a Boon!...to BOTH comfort and safety.
For me they do enhance the Boating experience,especially if you enjoy rough weather Ribbing,and or indulge in long passages.
Can you get away without them? Of course you can..we've all managed for years.
But...things move on and improvements are made....look how far car suspension technology has improved over the years....with most vehicle users having a pretty soft ride before! Compared to Ribbers!
Hopefully prices will come down in the future as more manufacturers get involved,but this kit does take some serious Cosh!...and needs top quality design and materials!...As in all things.. Leading to high costs.
It does worry me that people in thier attempt to produce homemade,cheaper versions may do themselves or thier family/friends very serious injuries when it doesn't work out how they'd hoped!
Totally agree - to have them is to understand
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Any more updates or ideas. I am getting dangerously close to having to make something or buy them. Curious to know how the ulman like units work without a hinge?
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Any more updates or ideas. I am getting dangerously close to having to make something or buy them. Curious to know how the ulman like units work without a hinge?
Hi all

Here's a good solid starting point.What about the back end of a motor crosser seat and swinging arm without the wheel.
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