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Old 04 May 2013, 19:39   #1
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DIY non-slip /anti skid Best methods?

I'm probably going to do the Ballistic deck with some form of non slip as after bleeding the steering I found out how utterly useless the moulded non slip is.

I don't want to use Treadmaster, and the alternative that I quite like is so bloody expensive that it'd be the same price to use a false teak type decking (which I don't want).
What I'd REALLY like is that fine sandpaper-like finish I keep seeing, but no paint I've tried seems to replicate.


1) How exactly is it done? Is it bird sand? Sprinkled on between coats or mixed with the paint and constantly agitated or another way?

2)Would this be any better than bird sand? 25kg 180-220 aqua blasting glass etching aluminium oxide sand grit shot bead | eBay as it's the same stuff as the incredibly expensive Jotun anti slip additive.


I've just done a test piece on some scrap using this mixed with flowcoat and the result is even, but it'd cost as much as Treadmaster to get anywhere near the finish I want. They're incredibly stingey with what they send out.
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Old 04 May 2013, 22:45   #2
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By difinition, the most effective non-slip surface will be uncoated and sharp. This method is extremely effective and a bit of a lateral thinking one.
The best non slip surface that I've come across and the most durable is on a belt sander.
This can be bought in huge lengths and widths and grades and indeed colours. It is fabric backed and by nature nearly indestructible under the harshest of abuse.
It is cuttable to size and shape, pliable and waterproof. Apply it with epoxy resin and it'll not be shifted, ever.
If you find a suitable colour or decide upon contrast then this may well be your answer.
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Matt, two coats of this stuff on a well prepared GRP will give a smooth surface like 180 wet and dry paper. It isn't affected by petrol either.

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However, you must scrub the life out of the deck first so green pan cleaning things TFR and elbow grease, 3 complete times.

Next thin slightly the first coat and allow to dry. Top coat just paint on. I think you will need 2 tins since a 750ml tin just does a Viper 5.95 deck, but any left will touch up for next year.

The light grey colour is cool in bare feet, very grippy even with diesel on it (don't ask) and it doesn't fade so any scratches I got from weight belts and diving tanks were just touched in and matched perfectly when dry. Do buy the thinners for it.

I did a proper job the first time. Second boat I didn't clean the deck well enough and the paint started to lift, lesson learnt.

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Nothing stopping you doing a herring bone pattern with masking tape to give it the posh expensive look. Also leave slight gap around the consoles with masking tape. Don't paint the vertical transom, removing grease will be much harder.

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Nothing stopping you doing a herring bone pattern with masking tape to give it the posh expensive look. Also leave slight gap around the consoles with masking tape. Don't paint the vertical transom, removing grease will be much harder.

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I can't do that without grinding all the moulded non skid off the deck first, and I really don't want to do that as I'm reliant on a generator for mains power to work on it.

I'll think of something
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I can't do that without grinding all the moulded non skid off the deck first, and I really don't want to do that as I'm reliant on a generator for mains power to work on it.

I'll think of something
Sanding belts, just have a look.
Not as Heath Robinson as you might think. Just don't nail them in place.
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Sanding belts, just have a look.
Basically what I have on my ex- US Navy Rib:
3M Technologies for Department of Defense:*Peel and Stick Non-Skid Series 700
The stuff is too grippy (in my opinion - i have the 700 series). Don't try to kneel on it in shorts and bare feet...knees and tops of toes will come up scratched.

$350 get pre-cut pieces already templated to my 7m. I'd guess it would be cheaper if you were to buy sheets or strips and do it yourself.

$53 US for 50x 13.97cm x 13.97cm squares of the 610 (slightly less grippy than the 700):Warning Tapes | Tapes-Anti-Slip | 3M™ Safety-Walk™ Slip-Resistant General Purpose Tapes/Treads 610, BK,5.5 inx5.5 in,50 | B581000 - GlobalIndustrial.com
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Basically what I have on my ex- US Navy Rib:
3M Technologies for Department of Defense:*Peel and Stick Non-Skid Series 700
The stuff is too grippy (in my opinion - i have the 700 series). Don't try to kneel on it in shorts and bare feet...knees and tops of toes will come up scratched.

$350 get pre-cut pieces already templated to my 7m. I'd guess it would be cheaper if you were to buy sheets or strips and do it yourself.

$53 US for 50x 13.97cm x 13.97cm squares of the 610 (slightly less grippy than the 700):Warning Tapes | Tapes-Anti-Slip | 3M™ Safety-Walk™ Slip-Resistant General Purpose Tapes/Treads 610, BK,5.5 inx5.5 in,50 | B581000 - GlobalIndustrial.com
Perfect distillation of my guff........3M
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Bit of a shame you can't generally get 3m products over here.
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look for 3M UK and it may work out, their html seems tricky to transfer
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got it.

No non slip on there though.


I suspect I'll probably end up doing the flowcoat/birdsand thing now in any case-it's just got a bit spendy again and I already have a load of flowcoat here.
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I have used this before on a sailing dinghy with good results, gives a very good finish

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Matt, two coats of this stuff on a well prepared GRP will give a smooth surface like 180 wet and dry paper. It isn't affected by petrol either.

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However, you must scrub the life out of the deck first so green pan cleaning things TFR and elbow grease, 3 complete times.

Next thin slightly the first coat and allow to dry. Top coat just paint on. I think you will need 2 tins since a 750ml tin just does a Viper 5.95 deck, but any left will touch up for next year.

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I did a proper job the first time. Second boat I didn't clean the deck well enough and the paint started to lift, lesson learnt.

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