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Old 15 February 2010, 19:19   #61
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no 3 the older one
Is she alive?
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Old 15 February 2010, 19:24   #62
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Still warm so fair game my Welsh friend, one she's in a bag though its off game warm or not.......... honest!
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Old 16 February 2010, 07:32   #63
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with regards to keeping a clear distance ,,looking on the net, it looks like the law in most states of the usa say that ,the A alpha flag is to be flown to indicate that ,,i have a diver down and i am restricted and unable to manouver,the diver must keep within a 100 ft radius of that flag ,and any free divers away from the boat ,,scuba .. snorkel should then use a s.m.b displaying the red/white diaganal stripe and keep within 100 ft radius ,,,Newyork state section 45 1a state navigation law then states that other boats must stay at least 100ft away from the diving flag ,,even though the red/white diag stripe is not an offical maritime flag ,,, the main primary use of the A flag is to prevent colisions between boats ,
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Old 16 February 2010, 12:26   #64
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We went out to dive on a wreck on Sunday (when charging prob started). Hadn't been on it for a while and the co-ords were slightly out, so put in a couple of passes to pick it up on the depthsounder....

Dropped anchor, liftted the A flag, got divers into the water....(when we stopped we realised that someone else had buoyed the wreck at it's mid section).

Whilst divers were down we were approached by a couple of blokes in a dory who came right over to us to tell us that the wreck was buoyed /show us the buoy...."if that's what we were looking for"

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Old 16 February 2010, 12:57   #65
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not relevant internationally esp when they can't even get their buoyage the right way round sorry boys or should it be boooies?
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Old 17 February 2010, 07:30   #66
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what has pissed me in the past is when you are pulling a fleet of pots that have been there all night all bouyed and flagged and and some orange rib stops about 50 yards in front of you and the D.O starts shouting in a posh voice and waving that they are diving a wreck and to keep clear, like its some sort of piss take .or when they pull up and start diving when there is a group of angling boats perhaps fishing a wreck expecting everyone to pack up and go elsewhere,
I have once polled up at a wreck with a boat of anglers already on it, talked to them about what we wanted to do and they moved, all quite amicable being as he was there first. I also try to be aware of other users who earn a living and will wait till they finish what they are doing. Similar picture with charter dive boats if they arent idots and faff about to much they can put their divers in first - they usually have all the people kitted and then dropped in neatly and quickly. There have even been times when a charter boat has used our shot so it can all work out.

Trying to work out how to rigidise our A-flag now, might even get a "you are running into danger" flag - though it's use may not be understood....
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no 3 the older one ,,bet she doesent do boats though ,, well our type anyhow,,,,,you can have the middle one Bruceb,,,,,,ive got a red haired 23 year old daughter were trying to get married off ,,she doesent do boats either ,
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The only time (twice that I can remember) having an argument about access to a wreck (ie who was going where) was not with potters or fishermen but dive charter vessels.
Both times I tried to talk to the charter vessels about working out how, who and when to get divers in, once even offering them my shot, and was rebuffed and told basically they had precedence over everyone.
Both times we ended up giving them the finger and getting in before them, its less faff on a RIB and with the folk I know to get in very quickly.
Generally charter vessels are not like this but if they won't even talk to you (one told me to F**off when I went to talk to him) then sod 'em!
My dive flag was taken from a sunken ship, if you know what it means you can't miss actually seeing it.
BTW 23 year old redheads are just my thing, fancy swopping for a 38 year old redhead with some cash to even out the trade
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The Blue white "A" flag means I have divers down please pass wide and slow. It is recommended that you pass at least 500m clear of any vessel showing the flag. Vessel should also, where practical, display day/night signals showing her as a Vessel Restricted in Manouverability. It is also prudent to put out a safety broadcast.

I've been there and done that with the MCA/MAIB/Yachtie.....Yachtie lost face, I lost loads of sleep!
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It is recommended that you pass at least 500m clear of any vessel showing the flag.
I doubt that a 1m flag is particularly obvious at 500m away.
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