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Old 14 April 2004, 16:45   #41
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Timofengland u mean these kind of jokes??
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Old 14 April 2004, 16:58   #42
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If I were a police-man I would be very affended!
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Old 14 April 2004, 18:01   #43
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I cant be bothered to see how this thread started, but this is a serious issue because not everyone who has a flare in their hand knows the consequences. I was told of a football match in wales where a spectator let off a rocket flare during the match. It hit another spectator in the chest on the other side of the pitch. He was dead before he hit the ground.
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That's the example I use when running RYA courses! Frightening isn't it!
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Old 14 April 2004, 18:43   #45
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OOh err, I must admit I got the story from a sea survival course.
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A few points that you can make your own mind up about:

Crews from many central and eastern European and SE asian countries (among other before I start another riot) fire off flares at New Year if in port or at anchor. I know of one flare which hadn't burnt out before landing on the roof of a new refrigerated warehouse in Capetown, said warehouse burnt to the ground and 2nd mate spent time in jail.

No names or places for the rest of this but....

I am aware of coastguard officers firing off flares at public events, in one case a flare landed on the ferry it was fired from (this one had burnt out) and in another public CG exercise the (red) parachute rocket flew horizontally along the quay just above head height over the public.

Last November I saw red flares in the sky in N scotland, on investigating found that the local mountain rescue team were celebrating bonfire night.

I know a 2nd officer who was hit in the face by a parachute rocket case which accidentally discharged as he passed it to another person during a drill, the rocket flew away from him but the casing hit his jaw with sufficient force from arms length to break his jaw and remove most of his front teeth.

My (personal) opinion is that any pyros can potentially be lethal weapons and should not be used at all at public events from a safety point of view alone. Boring I know and if it was just myself I'd be prepared to take the chance but there's too many other people who could get hurt.... I'll sit back and wait for the tidal wave of scorn!
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My (personal) opinion is that any pyros can potentially be lethal weapons and should not be used at all at public events from a safety point of view alone. Boring I know and if it was just myself I'd be prepared to take the chance but there's too many other people who could get hurt.... I'll sit back and wait for the tidal wave of scorn![/QUOTE]

i have to agree far to dangerous whats wrong with champagne being squirted
everywhere as the formula 1 guy's do, when they celebrate a victory
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I am a member of the Little Ship Club in central London. Every year, around November time, we invite the RNLI to give us a 30 minute talk on flares and rockets. We then go outside and practice using flares, smoke and mini-rockets under RNLI supervision. It is a very useful evening and I cant recommend them highly enough.
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Last year my pack of flares exceeded their use by date, I was advised to take them to the C.G or local Police station for disposal. The Police were I thought the easiest route. It took two hours of questions and form filling and they were eventually taken away by a firearms officer who had to be called in for the task. If the Police take these things so seriously shouldn't we all.
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Local coastguard Station is the best route if you live by the sea. Brixham MRSC are happy to have them, we log them in a file, put them in a steel container, and the Royal Navy pop up from time to time from Plymouth to collecthem and blow them up!!
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