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Old 09 February 2005, 12:08   #11
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Well, there is another way, we poll forum members for what we do want to see and then get Mr Kennet (if he is agreeable) to forward a sensible and productive suggestion to HMS at RIB INternational.
One members issue does not require RIBNET to take up the cause. If individual members don't like Rib Int then write to Hugo and tell him. I'm not 100% sure but when RibInt has been discussed before I'm sure that one of the staff came on here and asked for us to send them feedback.

I'm sure if Hugo was losing sales he would spend time to work out why and then address the issue through the mag.

As it happens I don't get RibInt and that has got nothing to do with Hugo chucking up on my boat .

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Old 09 February 2005, 12:09   #12
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Old 09 February 2005, 12:19   #13
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Calling him a <Edit: Offending word removed JK > is a bit harsh and probably best left for private correspondance. The pro's, con's and inadequacies of RI have been discussed endlessly before here and I believe the response was something along the lines of if you want to see it change then submit articles. My observation would be that if Fjord Rafting's story is true then it would not encourage folks to submit articles for publication would it?
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Mebbe HMS himself should come on here to discuss anything involving RIBInt. Or maybe he is already a member, as this is the largest rib forum in the UK, (I think.. ), and being the editor of the largest Rib's only magazine in the UK, you woulda thought he would take an interest in the things discussed on RIBnet..

As for the original post, I think if fjordrafting has found out about other occasions where RIBInt weren't above board when it came to fee's for articles, then peeps on this forum should be aware of it.. Saves anyone else from having future problems.. Forewarned is summat or other.. If fjordrafting is wrong, I would expect HMS to post his objections to the accusation..

As for the other RIBnet author's.. Instead of offering them for publication, why not post on here? I reckon this forum is just as, (if not better), informative as RIBInt..
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Old 09 February 2005, 12:58   #15
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Well it was only a suggestion! if we did post articles here who would have copyright? I'm glad RIB int is porduced but I dont think HMS is going to actually wait till he sees his sales figures go belly up before making a change now is he?

Being completely frank, I buy RIB int to be informed and to learn, as was previously suggested, I may indeed contact him however this would be only one voice and that is all to easy to ignore.

Finally, increasing content does lead to higher cost and a consistant format is what most editors strive toward, its no good starting something if sustaining it can prove difficult. Equipment reviews for instance, very useful but time consuming to put together etc etc.
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well done

Well done Fjordrafting for coming on here and putting across this view, you got some excellent coverage in the magazine, and I trust it wouldnt be in your interests to come on here and make a story up, I take you at your word , and I feel that if its the case , then this is very poor indeed.I now purchase my bimonthly copies of RI its gets to my local shop ages before it did to me in the post, I have never had as much as a letter as to why I stopped my subscription.I have had dealings once with Hugo, submitted an article , he edited it, asked was I happy , I was , the article got printed, no money was ever offered, nor did I ask for it, or indeed expect it.However if an agreement was made with your reporter, and this is the issue then it should be honoured.I am sure Hugo reads these forums, he has posted here before, maybe he will reply in time , and we will have a chance to hear the other side of the argument. In my opinion if the magazine makes money and uses articles submitted to it to do so, it would be fair to pay for this content, this would encourage contributors, hopefully sell more magazines a win win situation
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Well it was only a suggestion! if we did post articles here who would have copyright?
You would, as an author of an original piece of work. You wouldn't even need the symbol.. All though the use of it would let others know.. As ribbing is such a smallish community, you would find out fairly quickly if your article had been plagiarised elsewhere..
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A poor standard

I'd like to add my voice to this thread.

I do find it disapointing that the articles very very rarely say anything negative against any manufacturers. Its not really very fair reporting.

You cannot tell me that HMS has never liked how a rib or engine performed but his articles are "ooh is this new boat wonderful!"

It is more an advertising forum that offers very little practical advice. I'd like to see more OBO style articles on mods and navigation.

In the last article the captions did not match the photos and every single flipping magazine rants on and on and on and on about RIBEX

Why do I constantly need reminding about a small boat show on an inaccessable island with limited berthing and a poor number of exhibtors?

Hope some people agree
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I do find it disapointing that the articles very very rarely say anything negative against any manufacturers.

Hope some people agree
I think Adam Younger might take issue with you on that.

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Why do I constantly need reminding about a small boat show on an inaccessable island with limited berthing and a poor number of exhibtors?
With 4 ferry routes (with ferries every 30 mins or so) and a hovercraft route, the Isle of Wight can hardly be called 'inaccessible' IMHO! It's also very quick and easy to get to from the mainland side of the Solent with your own boat.

Personally, I thought last year's RIBex was a pretty good show with plenty of RIBs to see. The on land concourse was not as well populated but I suspect that will improve this year as exhibitors regain their confidence in the show. Berthing was not a problem for us thanks to Kevin (Aging Youth)!
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