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Old 25 September 2013, 12:29   #11
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I dekit in the water. The issue I have found is hauling the tanks back aboard. Being forced to bend at the waist and then lever them up onto the tubes with your lower back muscles (instead of lifting with your legs) is REALLY bad for your spine.

If you can build a ladder do it. Your spine will thank you soon.
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Old 25 September 2013, 15:49   #12
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It's even harder dragging a rebreather over the tubes....

Ribcraft built one with a small platform fixed to the A frame and the spine ladder hinged from that. It took me, a rebreather and two stages ok.
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Having dived off many a rib (never my own!) The states of some dive ribs due to people hauling themselves over the tubes and scratching them from the accessories attached to bcd or wing is bad. I always kitted and dekitted in the water weight belt put on last and removed first. Deck crew hand the gear down or retrieve and it is easy with fins on to get out over the tubes.
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It's difficult checking your kit before a dive when you're already in the water, I would take a guess that most of you guys are PADI trained
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Old 26 September 2013, 05:20   #15
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It's difficult checking your kit before a dive when you're already in the water, I would take a guess that most of you guys are PADI trained
Ouch Padi v BSAC jab!

Actually I am a Padi Assistant Instructor and Master Scuba Diver. Not that I am one for ranks, I prefer experience (hours) over card bragging.

I agree Biff, there is no reason why you cant carry out some of your buddy checks on the boat but making sure your BCD/Wing is inflated before lowering into the water. To be honest I regularly kitted on the boat with people I hadn't dived with before and backwards roll of the rib. In a dry suit (neoprene) or wet suit as long as you remove your weights first you will have air in your bcd/wing the moment you reach the surface so you will be positively buoyant when you remove your kit. Leave your mask and fins on and its easy to get back onto the rib.
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Thanks for feedback - it makes me rethink the whole thing.

But both of us would rather kit up on board - as its easier to double check everything then flop in ready. I also like to check my wifes kit out before hand as she has less experience than me. (not that Im perfect, I have been known to get it without fins before)

As for returning - I dont like the back strain or possible abuse to the tubes when hauling your kit in if you dekit in the water. With singles, thats OK, twins, mmm - its quite hard.

I do like to simply step up a ladder, fins on, and then sit down and remove my kit. With fins on I still have some control should I fall back in, or need to assist another diver.

Neither of us have a weight belt, its all attached to the backplate so there is no chance of it slipping off. Our dive style is more TDI than BSAC/PADI.

Also, its just the two of us, no crew, so whatever the solution it needs to be foolpoof, fast and simple.

Im going to go and see Biffer and we can have a look at some solutions with the RIB there and find out what works best.

I need it to be both practical, safe and look right on the boat.
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It's difficult checking your kit before a dive when you're already in the water, I would take a guess that most of you guys are PADI trained
... What was it PADI used to stand for???
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Old 26 September 2013, 06:47   #18
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... What was it PADI used to stand for???
Don't start turning this into a Padi V BSAC thread Matthew

I never have been bothered which training any diver has had whether PADI, BSAC, SSI etc and I have happily buddied with them.
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AJ, where do you do your diving then ? If you fancy meeting up for a dive from your / my RIB let me know.
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We dive from our rib on a regular basis. The conditions dictate if it's kit on in the boat or on the water. Eg down in the benign SOF in July we just chucked the kit in and put it on in the water.
But in the lumpy swell near Falmouth it was kit on whilst on the boat.
Re buddy checks, it's just as easy to do them in the water, just needs a slightly different method.
In both conditions though it's always kit off in the water, back into the boat ( via ladder or finning up over the side) and then lifting the kit back in. If there's some one already back on the boat they lift whilst it's pushed from below.
Getting the kit back on board is done with teamwork rather than one persons strength.
TBH if you are worried about a few marks from the kit on the tubes, should you really using the boat for diving? No matter how careful you are a wayward stainless buckle will easily mark the boat.
A nice ladder over the side would be useful but not to be used fully kitted...,IMHO

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