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Old 05 February 2003, 16:50   #31
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Fair point Mateboy ,I respect all that did it, and those who are going to do it.


Electronics can give you a sence of safety,but the sea hasnt changed and neither has man.

If your overwelmed bye a big breaker out there.Then its Curtains for you.All the electronics in the world will not help.

It will take hrs for a vessel to get to you ,and then its down to if it can find you? Which is dubious.

A personel epirb may help but its still a real risk,as your survival time is going to be small,and if its Blowing Badly then its even slimmer.

I appreciate Explorers and all who dare to attempt to explore.

There are no guarantees and in 20 yrs maybe people will look at us all and think we are Crazy.
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Old 05 February 2003, 17:33   #32
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The world is indeed a better place with all these Characters bobbing about.

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Old 05 February 2003, 18:07   #33
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So. Not only have they changed the opening page and stopped saying they are going to be the "first". They are now NOT going to the Arctic so why is it called the "Arnold & Sons Trans Atlantic Arctic Expedition"? Is this a case of media over truth? We shall see. Alan P
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Old 05 February 2003, 18:33   #34
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Yes your right Alan there is some new stuff on the site! boat build pictures ect.

It will be interesting to see what does actually happen? as I have a feeling its going to be a interesting yr.

They are running a 450 Cat with a waterjet and alli hull.

It will be interesting to see how she is in sea trials,as this is a normal commercial set up and might not be that fuel efficient,for its weight ?

Maybe they are going to be the First rib to, do something after all?

I will ,Watch this space ! as they say in the Newspaper buisness!


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Old 06 February 2003, 02:19   #35
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Er......didn't the Vikings cross the Atlantic in open boats circa 800 AD?

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They certainly did and I am sure that it was one of my relatives.

Thanks for the comments about RTW AlanP
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Old 06 February 2003, 08:03   #37
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First or last...

First or last - not the most important. Important is on WHAT kind of craft. In Poland, many sailors are talking, that Atlantic crossing on a RIB is nothing special! Many of them sailed across Atlantic and don't make any fuss about that The only difference was the craft - BIG or small, but a yacht designed to sail on the ocean, with food, water, and cosy bed
As to electronics - don't trust too much for them!
During my whole voyage I didn't received any weather forecast , not from BBC, not from Deutsche Welle... The EPIRB - one of the best brands, KANNAD, didn't set off, when my boat capsized. On the other hand, becouse of that, I HAD to put the RIB back to the right position and I HAD to sail across Atlantic
VHF, ICOM m15, one of the best hanheld VHF's - broken from the first days! I didn't make single contact with any ship. But I sent a couple of letters in plastic water cans! They are drifting yet, I think, somewhere on the Atlantic
Only the GPS had been working without problems!
Don't trust to eletronic's...
I wish all the best for guys from "Bear Grylls"
I think, that every one, who is trying to do similar thing desrves support all of Us.
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Old 06 February 2003, 16:01   #38
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There you go Mateboy, we both learnt that without even getting wet..

That will do for me,and this is about as close to the Arctic as I want to be Thanks.

Thanks Arec your advice may one day help us all be safer on the Sea.

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The unsinkable kilcullen

just read the mad irishmans book recieved yesterday

if he were a cat he'd have gone through a few of his 9 lives, in summary I think the guy is just lucky to be alive as there were many simply foolhardy things he did

this was no calculated sophisticated planned crossing, but a homemade shoestring job

fascinating to think we could rig up a sail and take our ribs sailing, let alone through storms across the atlantic

still cant figure out how he got it to sail in a straight line without any intricate self steering system

crazyhorse if you pm some details can lend it to you, subject to getting it back
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Old 07 February 2003, 09:40   #40
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Kilkullen

Matiboy,
I don,t know how it was with Kilkullen, but I know how it was with my Cena Strachu. RIB was going straigth as long, as the wind had been blowing from front quarters up to halfwind. I had to set the sails and secure tiller. With winds from the back - its different story. Thats why I had to read a book about windvanes and had to built one. I made this on Canary Islands.
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