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Old 10 June 2007, 12:06   #61
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Sorry to be so negative but these days that is a polite way of saying "bugger off we can't be bothered"!!!

Have you noticed that when an official makes a major cock up these days it is never their fault - they either need more training or more funds or they will change their procedures etc.

It was the same in the case of the poor little girl beaten to death because social services didn't do their job properly - at the end of the day someone dropped a bollock and they should be punished for it but they never will.
Hardly comparable, a slight question of speed limits and the death of a small child, have a little thought about your words before spouting them out please.
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Hardly comparable, a slight question of speed limits and the death of a small child, have a little thought about your words before spouting them out please.
If you read my whole post you will see I was referring to the modern trend of officials avoiding blame and responsibility.
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Old 10 June 2007, 15:17   #63
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Well...

Having just come back from Cowes I found the harbour master to be polite, helpful and quite chatty. No problems with any of the officials either.

I did however witness many ribs,powerboats and a few yachties acting like complete and utter pricks up at Newport. If I recounted it all I'd be here all night but I'm surprised someone wasn't killed and no-one sank.

One particular *&($%* in a tatty grey pac22 thought that 10 knots within 10 feet of swimmers while manoeuvering among very closely moored (mostly within 20 feet of each other) was acceptable.


I did have to laugh at the naked ginger bloke who jumped aboard a launch that was being driven like a complete knob as it passed his boat, stole their beer and then jumped in with it... Classic!
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Was also up at the festival on Sat night - think I was anchored a couple of boats away from you.

Understand you had a handle broken on the boat so reasonable that you are irritated, but seriously - "I'm surprised someone wasn't killed and no-one sank"!!!! Really don't think anything too bad was going on!

The guy in the PAC was going a bit quick, but he didn't hit anyone.

The naked guy was quite funny - the CILB were there and they were having a laugh with him and didn't seem to have any problems (with him or anyone else).

Why was the launch "being driven like a complete knob"? He went up infront of everyone turned round and then motered slowly through the anchorage.

"If I recounted it all I'd be here all night" - you make it sound as if it was total carnage - recon it was just a load of people out having a good time.

Am genuinly sorry to hear someone broke a handle on your boat - but in all honesty that could have happened in any anchorage, a marina etc - its annoying, but its part of owning a boat, there are inexperienced people helming boats out there everywhere....

Am sure there was some dubious driving over the weekend at points, but I don't think any of the above was too bad!
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Am sure there was some dubious driving over the weekend at points, but I don't think any of the above was too bad!
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fair point, was just suggesting that "surprised someone wasn't killed" etc was all a bit over the top - if I'd read it and hadn't been there I'd have thought the whole thing sounded like a bit of a nightmare. Whereas in reality no one was hurt, or even came close to it and everyone seemed to be having a pretty good time!
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What you obviously didn't see was the tiny wooden dingy with 2 adults and 2 kids aboard that Mr. Pac 22 almost hit, and the fact that when he came between us and the boat anchored 10' away he took his hands off the controls and covered his eyes.
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Was also up at the festival on Sat night - think I was anchored a couple of boats away from you.

Understand you had a handle broken on the boat so reasonable that you are irritated, but seriously - "I'm surprised someone wasn't killed and no-one sank"!!!! Really don't think anything too bad was going on!

The guy in the PAC was going a bit quick, but he didn't hit anyone.
I suspect you didn't see him heading towards the children in the water next to a couple of dinghies and swerve aside at the last second when the dinghies must have been out of sight below his bow. He came through 4 or 5 times and the safety boat was elsewhere most times. On one occasion he nearly swamped the family in the pram dinghy.
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The naked guy was quite funny - the CILB were there and they were having a laugh with him and didn't seem to have any problems (with him or anyone else).
He was hilarious-very car crash tv!
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Why was the launch "being driven like a complete knob"? He went up infront of everyone turned round and then motered slowly through the anchorage.
He touched us as he came past and I suspect he did the same to naked bloke's boat-even though there was twice the room on the other side of us and more water. Got to give him some credit having someone on the bow watching though.
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"If I recounted it all I'd be here all night" - you make it sound as if it was total carnage - recon it was just a load of people out having a good time.
I think you'd left by the time the real knobbery took place. The safety boat had gone too-there wasn't much water left.
One guy had his engine tilted and decided to soak everyone beind him for a fair way by opening the throttle. Another (same raft, different boat) was idling while being pushed backwards past dingies and other boats with engine fully tilted and in gear.

Another rib (think it was that pac22 again-it was dark, the rib was big,grey and I think it was after you left) was obviously drunk and appeared to run straight into 2 anchored yachts on the eastern side of the channelwhile still going too fast.
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Am genuinly sorry to hear someone broke a handle on your boat - but in all honesty that could have happened in any anchorage, a marina etc - its annoying, but its part of owning a boat, there are inexperienced people helming boats out there everywhere....

Am sure there was some dubious driving over the weekend at points, but I don't think any of the above was too bad!
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Apologies and fair enough to all of your points - sounds as if I had left by the time most of that happened and didn't see the half of it!

It sounds as if the situation was getting worse as the evening wore on!
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Apologies and fair enough to all of your points - sounds as if I had left by the time most of that happened and didn't see the half of it!

It sounds as if the situation was getting worse as the evening wore on!

It did-luckily we were just watching most of it from further upriver.

Muse were incredible. It's a shame you didn't see them.
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