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Old 05 June 2007, 08:20   #31
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one more thing i could never work out is in chichester harbour they have those saily dingy racing things,now i have seen them at speeds of up to 20mph or so, how come they are aloud to do that.....................ive fallen out with the commitee boat once or twice before aswell...............any answers
Yep, I looked into this a while back. The speed limit only applies to "power-driven" vessels. It's all here: http://www.conservancy.co.uk/uploads...CHCByelaws.pdf

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The master of any power-driven vessel shall not, subject to the requirements of maintaining adequate steerage way and control, suffer or cause her to be navigated or driven in the harbour at a speed exceeding eight knots through, on or over the water, unless the consent in writing of the Harbourmaster has previously been obtained. Provided that this byelaw shall not apply to any vessel on any occasion when it is being used for Conservancy, police, fire-fighting or rescue operations in circumstances where such speed limit would be likely to hinder the use of the vessel for the purpose for which it was being used on that occasion.


I suspect that it was drafted before the invention of asymmetric dinghies and International Moths.

You could probably get them under Byelaw 6 though if they annoy you:

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The master of a vessel navigating the harbour shall navigate the vessel with care and caution and in such manner as shall not cause annoyance to the occupants of any other vessel or cause damage or danger to any other vessel or to any moorings or other property
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"subject to the requirements of maintaining adequate steerage way and control"

Thats interesting, I wonder if the same wording applies to Cowes.

Dependant on how the tide is running I sometimes find it hard to maintain a speed as low as 6knots, as when it goes into gear my RIB is doing 5Knots. I only need the current running at 2Knots and I'm in and out of gear all the time, which of course means I may not have adequate steerage way and control.

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I wonder if the same wording applies to Cowes.
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http://www.cowes.co.uk/d/Harbour%20Byelaws.pdf

Byelaw 12
Every mechanically propelled vessel navigating the Harbour or Roads shall, unless otherwise authorised by the Harbour Master in writing, be navigated at a speed not exceeding 6 knots over the ground and in a manner which shall not endanger the safety of other vessels boats or property or cause damage thereto.

Every such vessel shall reduce speed as necessary in the observance of the normal practice of safe seamanship when passing mooring trots, boats alongside wharves, jetties, pontoons, vessels engaged in maritime works or in any other circumstances which could endanger the safety of other persons vessels boats or properties or cause damage thereto.


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Old 05 June 2007, 09:33   #34
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Nasher,

Heres an idea if you think your having problems. Because Cowes is so busy why not tuck in behind a motor cruiser and keep your wake inside his.

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I'm not having trouble as such, was just annoyed they were only picking on RIBs.

Not had an answer to my mail yet.

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I hope this isn't the thin end of a wedge. If RIBs end being hated as much as Jetskis we are going to end up being banned from many places.
I suspect this subject matter is brought up at many Sailing Club and Marina meetings where the clientel have the ear of the local Harbour Master. Its a good job Harbour Masters tend to use RIBs for their work or we would definately be on a sticky wicket.
I haven't had any problems this year yet but its getting near to 'Silly Season' and all the fair weather boaters are out now so things are going to definately get more interesting. Makes me wish it was mid week in February again. Had the Solent to myself then.
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Maybe we should all be super careful for a while??

I think the idea of tucking in behind a Gin Palace is a good one!

Particularly those going to the IOW festival on Saturday and Sunday should watch out since they will be 'quite relaxed' for the run back down to Cowes and there will be nothing else for them to do that late at night!!

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I hope this isn't the thin end of a wedge. If RIBs end being hated as much as Jetskis we are going to end up being banned from many places.
What do you expect when you make comments like the following on a public forum? If any harbour master, (or their friends,) read this forum, then they are going to be even more anti-rib..

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My mate did say that I should have pushed him in the water. That would have been a laugh.
A lot of these people are volunteers with a little bit of authority that they can't get anywhere else whether it be in their personal life or in their crappy little day job so they make the most of it when doing the volunteer harbour Master job. Trouble is its very hard to say anything against them.
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Me thinks so too. I like visiting Cowes in my RIB.

Also I think people should be aware that for boats parking in Cowes Town short stay berth, next to the Red Funnel Jet Ferry pickup, tickets are now being issued to boats that are parked up and vacant. I have paid five pounds and four pounds on various occasions. But have made an effort to pay my dues. I usually call the Harbour Master up on the Radio and hand the dues to him.

The less we do to upset the Harbour Master the better.

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